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Baker Faces State Investigation After Refusing To Make Lesbian Wedding Cake

The Oregon Department of Justice is looking into a complaint that a Gresham bakery refused to make a wedding cake for a same sex marriage.

It started on Jan. 17 when a mother and daughter showed up at Sweet Cakes by Melissa looking for the perfect wedding cake.

“My first question is what’s the wedding date,” said owner Aaron Klein. “My next question is bride and groom’s name … the girl giggled a little bit and said it’s two brides.”

  • Big D

    Just sad……that’s all

    • Paula

      It’s outrageous! And they get away with it… because THEY are NOT allowed to be offended!

  • TCinTexas

    What? We no longer live in a free society, where a business can refuse service to anyone?

    • Snowman8wa

      Not on the “LEFT COAST” TC……you take the chance of hurting their fragile witttle pampered feelings. The problem; they don’t get that “Like” is not a Governable behavior. Regardless of what our God said in the OT and our Lord Jesus reitterates in the NT; man has “Free will” to choose. I can “like” them as a person, but in accordance with Scripture am I in NO WAY OBLIGATED by God to “LIKE” or SUPPORT your sinful behavior.
      Everybody, go to their Facebook page below and SUPPORT this Bakery. Last night’s news said that they have had supporters drive down from Tacoma, WA, which is about 2 -2 1/2 hours north of Gresham in support of ther stance. Have some of their cupcakes sent to a friend, whatever it takes to say “thank you for standing up for their principles.!/pages/Sweet-Cakes-by-Melissa/352725392798

      Semper Vigilo, Fortis, Paratus et Fidelis

      • Rosalund

        I went to that site and it has been shut down.

        • Snowman8wa

          I was there about an hour ago, 1300 supporters comments, I would say they are being overwhelmed and don’t want to deal with the volume at the moment…..Thank the GLBT Agenda AGAIN for attacking a business owner on their beliefs…First Chik-Filet….now small business.

          Semper Vigilo, Fortis, Paratus et Fidelis

    • theronald

      Right, what happened to “No shirt, no service” and “No shoes, no service”. I used to see signs like this in restaurants every day.

      • Antogeny

        Those have been gone for at least 50 years!

        • Rosalund

          No way I am not that old to remember seeing these signs,

          • Antogeny

            Perhaps I should have said, they may have been seen in the South or in some out-of-the-way places, but they have been unenforceable since the 60’s!!!!!!! Remember the Civil Rights Marches????? You cannot refuse service to anyone – for any reason – any more. It’s racist or sexist or one of the other PC words that have been made up to force compliance with the Progressives’ agenda. JFK used the commerce clause to force anyone who bought Heinz (of Kerry’s wife’s dynasty) catsup to serve anyone, and JFK used the commerce clause to enforce HIS civil rights agenda. If you bought Heinz catsup, you participated in interstate commerce because the catsup traveled cross state lines. Therefore, you could not discriminate even if you were a small business owner who lived in one state, whose employees all came from that state, and whose customers lived in that state. If you purchased anything that was served in your restaurant that had traveled across a state line, you were subject to regulation udner the Commerce Clause of the U S Constitution. Come to think about it, not a whole lot has changed since then…..

      • MARYANN33

        They are still there.

    • Rex1949

      I guess not Tcin Texas. Now this is Pres. Barrack Husein Obama world as he is bi-sexual and loves his gay people as well as his Muslim Brothers. Kind of sick huh?

    • Antogeny

      We haven’t been truly free for a long time. Of course, I think cake decorating is artistic expression – and temperamental artists should not be told what they MUST create. Art work is a form of free speech – if I were the baker’s lawyer, that’s what I’d argue. A wedding cake requires artistry – artistic talent – and an artists who doesn’t have his heart in it cannot make a beautifully decorated wedding cake. A loaf of bread…not so much.

    • Rosalund

      Many businesses do just that and have always that I can remember. Its his business not the customers. They have signs up that they can refuse business to anyone.


      Think about this, Oregon homosexuals, if a law is passed forcing bakeries to make cakes for homosexuality events, then you can never buy a cake again, for fear that the baker does not agree with forced service, so they cannot be trusted to serve you without contaminating your cake! When consuming food that others are preparing, the last thing you want to do is make them, or the waitperson angry! God loves the homosexual. God hates homosexuality; He told us, so there is no argument here. Sin is sin. Do you see how God is turning your wicked ways against you to bring you to Him? Look at the military. The most devoted troops will quit if women are put on the front lines. Do these women really want to go into battle with the “leftover” troops? Two women were captured in Operation Iraqi Freedom. What was done to them was what prompted the restriction in the first place. Do you really want to subject yourself to rape and sodomy, in addition to what captured troops suffer? If 50% of the troops were women, you could be targeted JUST for sexual reasons, which raises the danger level again, JUST BECAUSE you are women, AND raises it for the men. They may be simply slaughtered expendably because ALL the islamist wanted with your team, is SEX, LOTS OF IT, maybe for YEARS AND YEARS! Do you see how every step you take in the wrong direction, paints ANOTHER target on the military as a whole?

    • boccagalupe

      Hey TC.. This is taking place in Oregon. That’s also the state where they home the Kevorkian School of Medicine. Where they like their visa-versa,

  • winlockmike

    what did they want a big dildoe cake. i wouldn’t bake it either. good for this guy. the state needs to keep out of this one. the old saying nothing but steers and queers in or. needs to be changed to just queers i guess

    • GM Thatcher

      Hey! My kids are out there. One hetero married and the other hetero not married. One Liberal one not.

    • Dingbat36

      I live in Oregon…………..this is just a big kerfuffle……… won’t go ANYWHERE!!

  • VirgoVince

    BS, ANY business should have the RIGHT to refuse ANY customer, WITHOUT apology!! PERIOD!!!!

    • pyrope

      That’s what a restaurant owner in Atlanta, GA said about 48 years ago. The Federal government said otherwise and threatened the restaurant owner with a jail sentence. He eventually closed his restaurant.

      • charliinmidGA

        hey py…. i was THERE the 48 yrs ago… do you remember when LESTER MADDOX would go out in the parking lot with his baseball bat and run off the peoples he did not want to serve? and you’re right! lots of restaurants were shut down because the owners REFUSED to serve certain peoples… BTW – us “chilluns” were not allowed to go IN some of these places because daddy was afraid “stuff” would break out and we’d be in danger. we were made to stay in the car with mom – or daddy went and picked up our order. thanks for your comment – it took me back to another time… lived in atlanta for many years… am MUCH happier living in the country in mid-west georgia…

        • Vazir Mukhtar

          There is a difference between a restaurant and a bakery (see my earlier post). Also the baker did not threaten his would-be customers with a baseball bat.

          • pyrope

            Private property is private property, is it not?

          • Vazir Mukhtar

            Alas, not all private property is truly private. If the feds consider your private property a public accommodation, you may be in trouble for discriminating against protected minorities. Much depends upon whether the “victim(s)” decide to file a complaint or not and how often you are alleged to have discriminated.

            Forewarned if forearmed. If I owned property I considered private, I’d read at least some of the federal regulations before getting involved with a possible “victim.” Life used to be a lot simpler.

          • charliinmidGA

            YOU also are not thinking… did NOT say the baker was threatening…. simply responded to PY… about living in an area we both were familiar with. why you so nutted up? you and thinker must be on same page. it was a SIMPLE statement. and of course! folks that run a business do not act out with a baseball bat! READ the post! it WAS 48 years ago – different time. gosh! why are you guys SO dam defensive? this stuff is NOT life or death stuff! good grief! are you EVEN 48 years old? what would you know?

          • Vazir Mukhtar

            No nut, I. You brought up Mr Maddox, he did as you wrote, and the fact that it was 48 years ago is irrelevant to my remark. Evidently I should have prompted you (and perhaps others) that my remark was intended as humor.

            My acquaintances and friends may have described me in various ways; “defensive” has never been one used to my face.

            Let’s write this business off as a misunderstanding, or a bad start, shall we?


          I stand behind this brave baker. It is INSANE to compare degeneracy to black issues.

          • charliinmidGA

            guess you’re not thinking…. didn’t make ANY comparison to anything! just replied to PY because his comment took me back to another time. get your panties out of a bunch! folks like YOU make me not want to have any kind of SIMPLE opinion at all – as it IS my right. it was a SIMPLE comment! good grief! insane? you have NO CLUE…

        • Dingbat36

          Axe handle Maddox was a racist southern Democrat. All those southern Democrats resisted integration from George Wallace to Bull Connor who set the dogs and fire hoses on the peace marchers. Please tell me why, after all that, blacks still vote for those evil people who have never really followed through on their promises and who talk the talk and do NOTHING more!

          • pyrope

            That was the point I was trying to make.

          • charliinmidGA

            hey ding. didn’t care about the racism that was going on at the time…. was too young to REALLY know just what it was! only remember that it was a stressful time for the grownups. in looking back – yes it was a racist thing that maddox did. it was also beyond my control. and in answer to your question above – as i see it – the blacks are taking to heart what is promised to them and think that the delivery will be unfailing…. and when delivery does not happen – the NEXT one to make promises will be the deliverer….. seems to be that they are looking for the NEXT deliverer. and HE/SHE does not walk this earth…. that happened two thousand years ago. looks like to me – it’s all a show. and each new deliverer tries to out talk the last, out-promise the last or out-boast the last – knowing FULL WELL they will never deliver the goods! BUT! they DO look good! hooray! (sarcasm added) god bless!

        • pyrope

          I wasn’t speaking of Lester Maddux’s Piga’le, but I can see how you might have thought I was. I was actually speaking of a place over on Highland Avenue–the Redwood Restaurant & Lounge–the owner’s restaurant was trashed a few times and he was trying to protect his investment since the police would not.
          Atlanta has always had LOTS of restaurants, it seems your father would have wanted to spend his hard-earned money where his custom would be appreciated. Oh, and Mr. Maddux was a Democrat, wasn’t he? Just saying.

          • charliinmidGA

            hey py. didn’t get over to the highland ave. area too much… lived south of I-20 – you know… the POOR side of atlanta….? grant park area. ONE block over from park. like i said – was a yungin’ at the time but DO remember the “ball bat” thingy. didn’t have a clue as to what the problem was. children don’t. nor do they have any control where ones parents go to purchase food… there were NOT lots of restaurants in our neighborhood… had to go to moreland ave. or up to memorial drive to get take-out… take-out…. funny word. never used back then. don’t even remember what we used to call it…. “eat out”? know darn well we didn’t call it fast food! maddox a democrat…. sure he was. but WHAT did that matter to a yungin’? was not even making a racial comment. YOU just took me back to another time in an old memory. i thank you for it and am sorry my young self did not know of the problems the Redwood had. do you think we live in a better “time” now? i know i don’t. am scared to see where our country is headed. so i just stay in my little corner of heaven and raise chickens and grow food and hope i please the lord and have enough to share with other folks just tryin’ to make it. again – thank you for the memory lane walk-through! god bless you and yours.

          • pyrope

            Then you might remember the area where I grew up; it was called “Cabbage Town,” and adjoined “Vine City.” The owner of the Redwood was Isadore Territoot, a survivor of the Nazi death camps.

          • charliinmidGA

            OMG!!!!! CABBAGETOWN!!!???? are you kidding? had LOTS of family members living there….. married a bryson that grew up there….. am i talking with an old classmate from ROOSEVELT?????? OMG!!!! brysons, braswells, evans, burgesses, williamses….. oh so many more!!!!! i grew up on WALDO street, just three blocks from Roosevelt Hi. do you know any of the prices, McDonalds, irelands, griffins or sealocks? we were all piled up on waldo street. am SO sorry to hear of Isadore’s hardships. you’d think that folks would have a kinder heart than to make it hard for somebody who has ALREADY lived the hell part of life… what eventually happened to this person? do you remember the “kwitcherbellyakin” bar on memorial? my dad and bobby evans used to frequent and father-in-law used to work for “dee” at the car lot across the street from there. there’s some REALLY RICH history that comes from that area!!!! remember the auditorium that used to be behind the milk place? where the first televised wrestling matches used to be held?… like back when we only had THREE channels to watch? i remember it being SO great when the PBS channels came to be… and i gotta say…. now that we’re deeper into the past – i’m beginning to kinda remember the “REDWOOD”…. it’s really stuck back in the memory bucket – but is sounding more and more familiar…. i’m gonna get out the oldest “franderone” i have and look at some people! OMG!!! this is so wierd!!! thank you so much for the reminders. some days i’m really astounded at the things i have nearly forgotten…… thank you again. i know this line of thought has no bearing on the article above – but THIS distraction is one i WELCOME A BUNCH!!!! hopefully we don’t PO anybody with our walk down memory lane…… AGAIN!!!! thank you and god bless!

          • pyrope

            I won’t take up a lot more space but to say we lived in a loft on Krog Street, not too far from Waldo. Later, ~’57 we moved to the other side of Little Five, down on Euclid, but I graduated from Bass H.S. & then from North Avenue Trade School. I worked my way thru by curb hopping at the Varsity. I remember playing ball over at Red Hill. God bless you and yours!

      • Nellie CA

        The government again and how many job loses? GOD BLESS OUR COUNTRY

        • Dingbat36

          God SAVE our country.

    • LRohde

      I thought we addressed that on when southern restaurants were required to serve blacks.

      • Rosalund

        This is NOT the same as racial problems.

        • andy

          but it is discremenation I’m all for the baker to refuse any one he wants to.I THOUGHT THIS WAS A FREE COUNTRY but any more I doubt it the way things are going

          • smartgranny55

            With freedom of religion.

        • 57girl

          Another difference is that this is not a ‘public’ business supported by taxpayer dollars, so the Government needs to back off and leave Mr. Klien and the millions of other small, private business, owners alone, to serve who they please.

      • MARYANN33

        No one should be required to serve anyone. We have the right to refuse service to anyone.

      • Kevin B

        If I remember correctly, southern rest. owners didn’t have a religious objection to blacks. They refused to serve them based on the color of their skin.

      • Marlene Berggren

        This has nothing to do with blacks, this is a lifestyle choice.

        • may12553


          • smartgranny55

            That is what she said, and she is right. Pre-marital sex and extra-marital sex are also choices, irresponsible choices.

          • draeh2020

            This is Not a queer problem. Not a civil rights issue.

        • Faithful Grammy

          You’re right, sexual perversion has nothing to do with civil rights. Homosexual activists argue that same-sex marriage is a civil rights issue that should be compared to racial equality. Sexual choice and a person’s race are fundamentally different realities. A man and a woman wanting to marry may have different characteristics or differences including the color of their skin. However, none of their differences is impossible to prevent them from marrying each other. They are still a man and a woman so the requirements of nature are respected. Same-sex “marriage” opposes nature. Two individuals of the same sex, regardless of their race, wealth, stature, education or fame, will never be able to procreate because of an insurmountable biological impossibility. Inherited and unchangeable racial traits cannot be compared with non-genetic and changeable behavior. There is simply no analogy between the interracial marriage of a man and a woman and the “marriage” between two individuals of the same sex. Liberals are good at playing the racial civil rights card, but it will never change the truth of the matter. Civil rights and sexual choices are not the same thing and they never will be.

          • caskinner

            Nailed it Faithful. Thank you.

      • Retired Chief Petty Officer

        When God laid down his laws, he was quite clear. Among the rights we have is the free exercise of religion that allows one to refuse to assist someone to perform an immoral act. A Christian can not in conscience assist in a “wedding” of two people of the same sex, anymore than he or she can assist at an abortion or provide contraceptive devises to anyone. This is not a civil rights issue. Civil rights end when a superior right such as freedom of religion or conscience stands in its way. Pretending that perversion is a civil right is a vile method of attempting to impose evil on the hearts of good people.

        • Raymond

          • 33% of homosexuals ADMIT to minor/adult sex (7).

          • There is a notable homosexual group, consisting of thousands of members, known as the North American Man and Boy Love Association (NAMBLA). This is a child molesting homosexual group whose cry is “SEX BEFORE 8 BEFORE IT’S TOO LATE.” This group can be seen marching in most major homosexual parades across the United States.

          • Homosexuals commit more than 33% of all reported child molestations in the United States, which, assuming homosexuals make up 2% of the population, means that 1 in 20 homosexuals is a child molestor, while 1 in 490 heterosexuals is a child molestor (19).

          • 73% of all homosexuals have had sex with boys under 19 years of age (9).

          • Many homosexuals admit that they are pedophiles: “The love between men and boys is at the foundation of homosexuality” (22).

          • Because homosexuals can’t reproduce naturally, they resort to recruiting children. Homosexuals can be heard chanting “TEN PERCENT IS NOT ENOUGH, RECRUIT, RECRUIT, RECRUIT” in their homosexual parades. A group called the “Lesbian Avengers” prides itself on trying to recruit young girls. They print “WE RECRUIT” on their literature. Some other homosexuals aren’t as overt about this, but rather try to infiltrate society and get into positions where they will have access to the malleable minds of young children (e.g., the clergy, teachers, Boy Scout leaders, etc.) (8). See the DC Lesbian Avengers web page, and DC Lesbian Avengers Press Release, where they threaten to recruit little boys and girls. Also, see AFA Action Alert.

          • John Hand w/gunpermit

            Man, you ain’t kidding about gays being pedophiles. I used to hitchhike a lot when I was a young teen because from where I lived out in the country there wasn’t any bus line from where I lived to where I wanted to go to a movie or roller skating or whatever.
            Here they would come. If they were driving past going the other way, they would make a U turn. I got to know their cars (two or three guys) and would run and hide. The first time I got trapped with them in the car, I would have to make a promise to cooperate the next time. Luckily, they weren’t in the business yet of committing murders, at least not the ones who picked me up.

        • koldwindblows

          Right on, Chief. Thank you for your service to this country and for telling it like it is.

    • Dennis VanMeter

      You do, unless you are gay.

    • Rex1949

      virgo Vince: Your 100% right. He was nice and courteous in every way he spoke. And he explained to her why he could not make the wedding cake she wanted. And a person has the right to refuse customer service to anyone. I noticed that was never remarked about. Only the fact he refused to service for individuals who are gay. This man does not need this kind of abusement in his business. He is a small business man only trying to make a living with his business is all. Shesh!

      • georgegallo

        Great post. I love abusement. You ought to look up the meaning. What cracks me up is if you put an ‘m’ where the ‘b’ is, you get amusement. What the heck do you mean by “..only trying to make a living…”? He must have brought my book, “How to Annoy Customers and Turn Away Work as You are Going Out of Business.” Great book. Actually, good luck to the baker. I just wonder if any of us on this site are on his list ‘not to serve?’

        • caskinner

          Must be gay???

          • rooster

            Probably right.

          • Raymond

            Can there be any doubt?

          • caskinner

            Think his pink panties were beginning to FLAME.

          • Raymond

            • 50% of suicides can be attributed to homosexuals (10).

            • Dr. Daniel Capron, a practicing psychiatrist, says, “Homosexuality by definition is not healthy and wholesome. The homosexual person, at best, will be unhappier and more unfulfilled than the sexually normal person” (10). For other psychiatrists who believe that homosexuality is wrong, please see National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality.

            • It takes approximately $300,000 to take care of each AIDS victim, so thanks to the promiscuous lifestyle of homosexuals, medical insurance rates have been skyrocketing for all of us(10).

            • Homosexuals were responsible for spreading AIDS in the United States, and then raised up violent groups like Act Up and Ground Zero to complain about it. Even today, homosexuals account for well over 50% of the AIDS cases in the United States, which is quite a large number considering that they account for only 1-2% of the population.

            • Homosexuals account for a disproportionate number of hepatitis cases: 70-80% in San Francisco, 29% in Denver, 66% in New York City, 56% in Toronto, 42% in Montreal, and 26% in Melbourne (8).

            • 37% of homosexuals engage in sadomasochism, which accounts for many accidental deaths. In San Francisco, classes were held to teach homosexuals how to not kill their partners during sadomasochism (8).

            • 41% of homosexuals say they have had sex with strangers in public restrooms, 60% say they have had sex with strangers in bathhouses, and 64% of these encounters have involved the use of illegal drugs (8).

            • Depending on the city, 39-59% of homosexuals are infected with intestinal parasites like worms, flukes and amoebae, which is common in filthy third world countries (8).

            • The median age of death of homosexuals is 42 (only 9% live past age 65). This drops to 39 if the cause of death is AIDS. The median age of death of a married heterosexual man is 75 (8). [This is a reduction in the length of life by 44% (33/75 = 44%)

            • The median age of death of lesbians is 45 (only 24% live past age 65). The median age of death of a married heterosexual woman is 79 (8).

            • Homosexuals are 100 times more likely to be murdered (usually by another homosexual) than the average person, 25 times more likely to commit suicide, and 19 times more likely to die in a traffic accident (8).

            • 21% of lesbians die of murder, suicide or traffic accident, which is at a rate of 534 times higher than the number of white heterosexual females aged 25-44 who die of these things(8).

            • 50% of the calls to a hotline to report “queer bashing” involved domestic violence (i.e., homosexuals beating up other homosexuals) (18).

            • About 50% of the women on death row are lesbians (12).
            Homosexuals prey on children.

          • Vazir Mukhtar

            I won’t dispute your statistics but would sure appreciate your listing the sources. I’d thought that the numbers in parentheses might refer to sources posted somewhere here. If so, I can’t find them.

          • may12553

            I think the lady doth protest too much.

          • Robert Anderson Sr

            What was the cake? Picture of a DUEL DILDO ? Just saying ?

          • Pclages

            I did not know these stats….

          • Raymond

            All true

          • Fred

            Ramond’s “Stats” are totally BOGUS.

          • may12553

            So the homosexual person will be less happy and fulfilled than the ‘normal’ person…..and all your other horrible statistics….that must be why homosexuals DON’T CHOOSE their lifestyle.

          • Harold

            BOLONEYYYYYY, It is a sick perverted choice.

          • may12553

            Do you know from personal experience?

          • Frank J. Austin

            I do. And I CHOOSE to be a heterosexual male.

          • may12553

            So, Frank…’re a homosexual, but CHOOSE to live a heterosexual lifestyle? Isn’t that like living a lie? I’m straight…and when I think about being with another woman, the thought of it makes me sick, It’s not for me. So for a real homosexual male to be living a hetero life……it must turn your stomach. That makes no sense. I think it can be physically done…….but it must be awful. So sad.

          • Raymond
          • MassAlex

            All I can say is that I pity you. For one thing, you are not going to know the beauty of Man-woman love and companionship. Then when you leave this world, you will face Almighty God Who will ask you a simple question: “Why did you waste that Life that I gave you?” And what will you answer? You will not be able to. You should seek professional help AT ONCE.

          • caskinner

            What??? He said he was heterosexual.

          • MassAlex

            I think he said he was a homosexual. Maybe I didn’t read correctly. Anyway, that does apply to homosexuals. Remember we are not supposed to waste our lives. Recall the Parable about the 3 persons and their Talents. The one who just gave back his Talent without even TRYING to do some good went to Hell.

          • Raymond
          • Raymond

            CDC: Homosexual Men’s HIV Rate 44 Times Higher
            Than that of other Men; Syphilis Rate 46 Times Higher.


          • Raymond

            If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. Leviticus 20:13

            Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet. Romans 1: 24, 25, 26, 27.

            The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman’s garment: forall that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God. Deuteronomy 22:5.

            Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner,giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. Jude 7

            Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind. 1 Corinthians 6: 9.

            Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine. 1 Timothy 1:9,10.

            And if a man lie with a beast, he shall surely be put to death: and ye shall slay the beast. And if a woman approach unto any beast,and lie down thereto, thou shalt kill the woman, and the beast: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. Lev 20: 15, 16.

            Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion. Leviticus 18: 22, 23.

          • caskinner

            The homosexual lifestyle IS a choice.

          • may12553

            No……it’s not. Well, everybody has a choice. A homosexual can choose to live a ‘straight’ life, but then they’re living a lie. That is not fair to anyone. So, they can choose to live a homosexual lifestyle, if that’s what they are…….or live a lie or live alone for their whole life.

          • caskinner

            I believe some homosexuals are born that way, so that is not a choice, but how they live is a choice.

          • may12553

            Like I said….a gay person can choose to live like a straight person……but why? Spend their whole life living a lie and being unhappy. It certainly wouldn’t be fair to their girlfriend or wife either.

          • caskinner

            I would be more concerned about pleasing God.

          • Kathi Mcdermott

            And what the hell does that have to do with a Christian man not wanting to make a same sex marriage wedding cake. which by the way look up the definition of marriage and same sex doesn’t fit into that definition anywhere “may”. Like it was said earlier, this is just to peeve the bakery owner off, and the little lesbo girl thinking she is proving a point. Let’s check back with little lesbo girl in 2 years and I will wager money she and little lesbo girls “wife”/”girl husband” aren’t together.

          • Progressive Republican

            You’d likely lose that bet, statistically speaking. The most recent evidence from the UK Office of National Statistics finds that homosexual couples that joined in 2005 were significantly less likely to have filed for dissolution four years later than heterosexual couples were to have filed for divorce: 2.5% compared to 5.5%.

            Male couples were much less likely to dissolve their relationship than were female couples: By the end of 2010, 1.6 % of male civil partnerships had ended in dissolution compared to 3.3 % of female partnerships.

            It is reasonable to assume that U.S. rates are similar.

            People who have been divorced in the past are far more likely to divorce in the future. In the UK in 2010, 19% of male civil unions were between a previously single man and a previously married man while 27% of female civil unions were between a previously single woman and a previously married women.

            If lesbian women are more likely to have been in a heterosexual relationship in the past that ended in divorce (which appears to be true) than are gay men, then there is nothing surprising about their higher divorce rates in that gender group.

          • may12553

            If you had been reading all the texts…..I said earlier that I agreed with the baker. It’s his business and he has a right not to make the wedding cake. As far as the ‘little lesbo girl’ and her marriage goes, I’m not sure. Is the gay divorce rate as high as the heterosexual divorce rate?

          • Jeff

            Homosexuality, like any other voluntary behavior is a choice. People art not born sexual; they are just born. We are born neither gay nor straight; we’re just born. Genetics might determine jestures and mannerisms, but they do not determine sexual orientation. People who have gender dismorphia feel they are born with the wrong gender. But make no mistake about it; when you are born , you got what you were given. The ultimate sad truth is, that if they who feel they were born with the wrong gender, had the opposite gender, they would still be declaring they were gay. Homosexuality is a spirit of rebellion against truth; the truth of how God created them.

          • siquijorisland

            what lie? Give me the hard facts on this lie. compared to who, are they saying we are not natures way.

          • may12553

            I don’t understand your comment. Please explain…..thanks

          • Raymond

            If sodomy is not a choice then why does God condemn it???

          • may12553

            Do you know a homosexual personally. From the time they were born…..every day of their life? Unless you are a homosexual or gave birth to a homosexual and spent your live with one……… have NO IDEA what you are talking about. Just spouting off a bunch of crap.

          • TheBigGeezer

            no… it’s you may12553 that’s spouting the crap. You just spew the homosexual marketing lies… they choose the lifestyle because most of them are cowardly boys that find it’s easier to call themselves homos than to face growing up challenges and fears … and then they market the lifestyle to individuals who are struggling with their identity. Just look at the case of the Rutgers kid who was relentlessly pushed to try homosexual sex… and then was so repulsed by the actions that he killed himself… not one homosexual marketer was blamed… they have created hell for our great country.

          • voter suppression

            soory yes i do no several homosexuals and i disagree with you.

          • may12553

            I was raised a Catholic and I’m quite conservative politically. However, I think people have the right to love who they love. The God I was raised praising……..loves everyone.

          • caskinner

            Yes God loves everyone but it is very clear where He stands on homosexuality. If you don’t like it talk to Him.

          • may12553

            I always do……

          • Howard

            What does he tell you?

          • may12553

            He told me not to talk to a guy named Howard.

          • georgegallo

            Great Howard. Ya tried to make a ‘gotcha’ post aimed at May. Follow the posts: caskinner “If you don’t like it talk to Him.” May “I always do….” Howard “What does he tell you?” Ya see, while May was polite and clever enough to respond to your post, neither of the posts mentioned God talking to her. Jeez if you can’t follow two simple posts, what is going to happen when there are even more words involved. It always annoys me when someone tries to make a funny that doesn’t logically follow the setup. I guess we just had a Bevis and Butthead moment there.

          • geeshim

            The God you were raised with started a church, whose teaching is against homosexual practices. Now, if you were not properly catechized, you might mistakenly believe otherwise. The church has firm, clear and consistent teachings on the subject. And Catholicism does not allow its members to hold and act on beliefs contrary to its teachings as a matter of conscience. One’s conscience is to be properly formed by instruction in the truth, which the church teaches. And the church does NOT teach what you are pushing.

          • may12553

            Well, I went to Catholic school and received all the sacraments (except that last one there….lol). I was married in the Catholic church and my husband of 10 years left me and our sons and divorced me. I am no longer a practicing Catholic. I am however, a good Christian. I try hard not to judge anyone…and I try to follow the commandments. Not judging people……..that’s a novel idea on this forum apparently.

          • Howard

            So you don’t judge people? I guess that means that you just let your kids run with anybody that they want to, such as thieves, robbers, etc, etc, right? If you are not judging who your kids run with then you are a lousy parent.

          • siquijorisland

            i am married and love my wife, we have a very long and extremely great marriage.

            I do not go out of my way to tell anyone to follow my lead. I do not tell others that i am a normal. happy person, as there is no need. I am always somewhat insulted when i see the gay display or uncouth behavior in public.

            I have to agree with the gay guy who said that gay marage is not the way because children need a father and a mother to raise them correctly.

          • caskinner

            Seems like she is judging people that don’t agree with the homosexual lifestyle.

          • Fred

            Your dam right she is. Why would you go to a doctor if your not sick. Gays are sick..

          • georgegallo

            I guess the logic of your post is meant to tear down the positive idea May put forth. That is not what she meant and you know it. You have a great talent there.

          • TheBigGeezer

            so may 12553 you’re a female? White? Middle aged? You sound like one of those idiot females that voted for obama… thanks for your brilliance.

          • may12553

            Nope. I didn’t vote for the man who is picking apart at the constitution at an alarming rate. I did vote for Romney, although he would’t have been my first choice. I am white, however I am a member of AMAC… know…..the conservative’s AARP. That makes you wrong again. Have a nice day.

          • georgegallo

            Thanks may12553. I keep reading what everyone thinks Christianity is and how a Christian should act. Everyone stops at a point that proves their the lack of the totality of the Christian faith. Yeah, not judging people….Great idea. How about starting with not calling each other names. Ha. Half the posts would be gone.

          • may12553

            Hey there georgegallo. Thank you for the kind words. To tell you the truth I read your comment several times. After reading most everyone’s not-so-kind words…..I thought you were being sarcastic. It took me a few minutes to realize that you were just being nice. lol

          • georgegallo

            Yeah, just trying to be nice. G

          • Robert Anderson Sr

            There is a difference to Love people for themselves and LOVE for a MARRIAGE and have a family ! NO where in the BIBLE does it state same sex marriage !

          • MassAlex

            If He “loves” “everyone” – as you say, then why does He say that “…because they wanted none of My reproof, in their day of calamity, they shall seek Me but not find Me, they shall call to Me but I shall not answer.”? Please respond to THAT. What you are blabbering about is nothing more than Political Correctness, which the Creator of the Universe cares nothing about. Oh, and if you need a source, check out the first few paragraphs in Proverbs – that’s from where I quoted. Fact is He loves those that make even the slightest attempt to obey Him – for their own good.

          • Kay Till

            Yes, God loves everyone…but He cannot deny His own nature, and His nature is that He is Holy and completely good. He cannot condone sin. He loves us so much that He gave us a solution to our sin problem – He sent His son to die for us, so if we accept Him as our Savior, we do not have to pay the penalty for our sin. HOWEVER we are told that we are to be holy, as He is holy…grace is not a license to sin. AND He loves us too much to approve of us continuing to live in sin (rebellion to His laws). In Galatians 6, the Apostle Paul said, “7 Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap. 8 For he who sows to his flesh will of the flesh reap corruption, but he who sows to the Spirit will of the Spirit reap everlasting life.”

          • Rosalund

            Read you bible again. Homosexual is not a new normal in the bible And its not up to me or you to say this is what I believe. God clearly states how he feels about homosexual look it up and see for yourself.

          • vickie

            it is not that God doesn’t love everybody. He does. but he hates the sin they choose to live in. homos should go to a doctor and get the proper hormones to make them the gender they were born to be. instead of choosing to live in sin. it is a birth defect and can cause the worst plaque AIDS on earth.

          • may12553

            I know that God loves everyone…..and it is NOT a birth defect that will go away with hormone shots. You don’t know what you’re talking about.

          • thunderbob

            I don’t agree with you, God does love all, however if you are following his guidance, he will not accept you. Explain why in the scriptures it says; no liar, homosexual, murders adulterers, shall enter the kingdom of heaven? If you care to look at the times the God punished the earth was because of morality issues.

          • Raymond
          • Raymond
          • Robert Anderson Sr

            Amen & why did he state in the BIBLE to go out and multiply ! I don’t think that same sex can do that EXCEPT ADOPT and that’s not in the Bible !

          • Ralph E. Zecco

            It is a choice. According to The Human Genome Project, Dr. Francis S. Collins, head of the project, stated that homosexuality is not hardwired. I’ll accept his findings over some shrink saying it is normal or even a politician or judge. Don’t forget that they now want to force the teaching of normality of homosexuality onto K-12 grade. They already teach acceptance of it at the college level so pretty soon, it won’t matter that belief in it being genetic is a lie because they will believe the lie no matter what the facts are.

          • 820 REDHORSE

            True it is solely a CHOICE!! You either choose to be a goo=gobbler or you choose to live a normal lifestyle, without worrying about aids or burning in hell cause yer a fancy ladd or a butch!

          • Madelyn

            God does not condemn it, Just some one who put it in the christian guide book, the bible. If you’re not a christian, it does not apply.
            What about the fact that the majority of hetrosexual couples also practice sodomy, or anal sex as a valid method of birth control?

          • Raymond

            Revelation 20

            1And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. 2And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, 3And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season. 4And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. 7And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, 8And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. 9And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. 10And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

            11And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. 12And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. 13And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 14And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

          • Fred

            Homos do choose their lifestyle if we can choose to be a heterosexual we can choose not to be a homo and vise versa. God is not a God of confusion and you people are confused make no mistake about that.

          • may12553

            Fred, I imagine you are heterosexual. You were born a heterosexual……make no mistake about that. You could choose to live an alternate lifestyle….but why would you? It would be completely disagreeable to who you are. The same logic applies to a homosexual. You are right. God is not confused. He knows exactly what he is doing when he creates each and every one of us.

          • Daniel Gray

            Ok. Then PROVE that this isnt a choice or that it is caused by a gene. Superman cannot hold his breath that long waiting for you to do the impossible as there is NO valid nor credited study showing the existence of a “gay gene” and as such, the ONLY conclusion left is that this is a lifestyle CHOICE.

            So out your money where your mouth is chuckles….provide us with just ONE credible study showing this isnt a choice, and no you cannot use a left wing study to make your point, it has to be an independent study or none at all.

            We are waiting May 12553 and Progressive Republican. The ball is in your court. Put up or shut up. Your choice.

          • may12553

            There are numerous studies showing the differences between the brains of gay and straight men and the differences between the brains of lesbian women and straight women. This is a link to an interesting article.


            I’m sure you will find fault with it. There are many more on line. Do a little research.
            My real proof, however, is right here in my home. I gave birth to four sons. I knew that my second son was ‘different’ since the time he was 2 to 3 years old. I KNEW. The toys he liked, the clothes he liked, the movie characters he was drawn to. I could go on and on.

            A person’s lifestyle is a choice…….but not how they were born. And by the way ‘chuckles’………you’re kind of rude. Were you born that way or did you make the choice to be rude?

          • Fred

            What lifestyle they are freaks of nature there just after the lust.

          • may12553

            I’ll have to ask my son, the one with a double major in college, the one who got a full academic scholarship to a Catholic university, the one who speaks 5 languages, if he lives his whole life because he is ‘just after the lust’. What a fool you are Fred.

          • Daniel Gray

            You still have not proven that they dont. Medical science has not proven that there is a gay gene or that people are born gay. There is no documented study saying anything of the sort either. Guess that means that your whole post is false as you have no source except your beliefs that say otherwise. And your beliefs dont hold a candle to the facts.

          • may12553

            What facts? You just said that there are no conclusive facts that prove there is a gay gene. There are no facts yet, that prove there is not either. I guess your ‘facts’ just flew out the window.

          • may12553

            There is a difference between the brains of straight men and gay men…..same with the woman.


          • Harold

            They used to call homo’s and lizies life style, ‘Abnormal” untill the weaklings in the field of mental health, thought they could make more money trying to normalize ‘the gay life style.”.

          • Robert Anderson Sr

            Then wonder why OUR Country is going to HELL !!

          • Libtard

            there is no hell tard

          • Raymond

            Revelation 20

            1And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. 2And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, 3And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season. 4And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. 7And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, 8And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. 9And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. 10And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

            11And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. 12And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. 13And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 14And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

          • vickie

            thanks raymond. those who oppose you probably have no bible and just don’t know where they will reside after death. they have destroyed the word gay. it used to mean happy. what a shame they are to every country everywhere.

          • Raymond

            Hi Vickie,
            I grew up with a girl with your first name.
            I’ve always wondered what happened to her.

            Anyway, it’s very clear that Satan and his followers
            have control over this earth, until God casts them into the
            lake of fire. I once talked to a homosexual who said that he and his friends
            were going to find a way to remove God from power. I told him to let me know
            how that works out for him. That person is in for a big surprise. I quoted
            Bible verses that deal with that subject and the website banned me from
            posting. That website in question is:

          • Richard Holmes

            What does being homosexual have to do with dieing in a traffic accident?

          • Raymond

            You need to get a haircut.

          • Fred

            Did you ever try driving while you were getting a BJ fool.

          • eddyjames

            Maybe that is why the FEMA camps are being set up,as gay retreats.

          • Progressive Republican

            “Nice” cut-and-paste. Equally nice job picking the drivel of a widely (years ago!) discredited homophobe.

          • Raymond

            2 Timothy 3:

            This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their ownselves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith. But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was.

          • Progressive Republican

            So you’re backing up the claims of a proven, demonstrable liar with a biblical quote? Seriously?

          • David

            ” Progressive Republican” is an Oxymoron!!

          • Progressive Republican

            Not when they started out. It wasn’t until the RINOs sold out to the robber barons in the mid-1880s that the GOP started working it’s way into the sewer it currently occupies.

          • panors77

            ooops….heh you beat me to it. lol.

          • Daniel Gray

            Are you really that stupid or are you just trying really hard. IN the US Supreme Court Boy Scout decision, they clearly stated that an individual has the right to decide who he-she-they will associate with. As such for this state to try and make the baker make the cake is a violation of a Supreme Court decision and a federal felony. As for these claims being incorrect as you say…lets look at the lies coming from your side. Where is your outrage about the lie of Homosexuals being 10% of the population when the US Census as well as the WHO (World Health Organization) and the AMA all three clearly say that the actual homosexual population in the world is less then 1/10th of 1%. But I guess you dont want to hear that. Or as for Homosexuals going after kids…well I guess you dont know about or didnt read about the two homosexuals in Arkansas that took a 10 year old boy they had been grooming and raped him repeatedly and then shoved his undershorts into his mouth as he was tied up on the bed and went to make themselves lunch, and then raped the kid yet again while he was dying. Their reasoning? That it was a dirty little secret that Homosexuals actually DO target children. Another proof of this is the homosexual puppet on Seseme Street. Now WHY would you put a homosexual puppet on a childrens show?! And lets not forget the biggest Homosexual dirty secret of all…NAMBLA! Every member is a admitted homosexual! SO go slink back under your rock you lying fool

          • may12553

            I personally know a woman who was sexually abused by straight men when she was little. Later in life she was sexually harassed many times over by straight men at her place of employment. So, using your logic, ALL straight men are apt to sexually abuse and/or sexually harass girls and women. Good stereotyping there Daniel.
            And what puppet on Sesame Street is gay? lol

          • Progressive Republican

            Lotsa b.s. Shocking.

            Why bring the Boy Scouts into it? Because of their long history of homosexual activities (ever hear the term “circle jerk”)? It’s not like there’re any current attempts through the courts to get them to change their rules, so where did that little tirade come from?

            Then the next part is actually sort of accurate except for your false claim that the information you subsequently refute is itself being touted as current. It isn’t. Hasn’t been for years. Cute pretending to keep up, though.

            Btw, feel free to expound on the “federal felony” you claim. In case you’re not quite clear, I’m asking you to prove it.

            Your deliberate confusing of homosexuals with pedophiles is equally dated and has been proven not to be the case. Years ago. That’s not to say that there are no homosexuals who target children. There clearly are. It’s just that homosexuality and pedophilia are demonstrably dissimilar. There are no reputable, credible sources to refute this.

            “the homosexual puppet on Seseme (sic) Street.” Really? Which one? Most FRWNJs claim that there are two. If they’re gay, why are there two beds? Are they still operating under Hays Commission rules? Are you claiming that any two males who cohabitate are therefore gay?

            NAMBLA was expelled from the International Lesbian and Gay Association nearly twenty years ago. In 2000 they faced a wrongful death suit that was ultimately dismissed. This took a severe financial toll (intentionally?) and by 2006 became defunct.

            The number of Americans who believe the myth that gays are child molesters has shrunk significantly. In a 1970 national survey, more than 70% of respondents agreed with the assertions that “Homosexuals are dangerous as teachers or youth leaders because they try to get sexually involved with children” or that “Homosexuals try to play sexually with children if they cannot get an adult partner.”

            In a subsequent 1999 national poll, that belief had fallen to 19% of heterosexual men and 10% of heterosexual women. Even fewer – 9% of men and 6% of women – regarded most lesbians as child molesters.

            Consistent with these findings, Gallup polls have found that an increasing number of Americans would allow gay people to be elementary school teachers. For example, the proportion was 54% in 2005, compared to 27% in 1977. It’s even higher now.

            So to recap, hmm… let’s see… insult, blah, blah, blah, non sequitur, blah, blah, blah, disinformation, blah, blah, blah, unproven assertion, blah, blah, blah, b.s., blah, blah, blah, MORE b.s., blah, blah, blah, more insult. Pff

          • Daniel Gray

            Awww, pwoor wittle baby. Got your knickers twisted and now you are throwing a tantrum

            1. Federal US Supreme Court Decisions TRUMP all lower court or state decisions. Violating a US Supreme Court Decision is classified as a federal felony. My source? or you can write and ask them yourself at
            1 First St NE Washington, DC 20543 or call them at (202) 479-3000

            2. We are not talking about Bert and Ernie here as you are trying to imply. We are talking about, its the one with the pink hair and the fairy dress. I mean come on are you really that ignorant of the fact that PBS has said that this was a gay character? in case you still dont believe, here is a list of their National officers who will confirm it is true.

            3. NAMBLA is defunct? Oh really? Then please explain just how the NAMBLA group still has chapters in NYC and SF and in both of these cities they are fighting to be able to use the public library as their meeting place…and BOTH are wholeheartedly supported by GLAAD. MY Source? San Fransisco Examiner and the NY Times.

            4. Really, again Really? Then why did a poll done by USA Today/Time Warner in September of 2012 have over 88% of the respondents clearly state that Homosexuals do target children and the vast majority ARE vied as child predators. Just recently less then 20 miles from where I live we had a teacher that is an admitted homosexual, be convicted to three life sentences because of the rape of four young men under the age of 13. And I noticed I stated where my source was from, all we got from you is some mythical national poll that has no source and is 13 years older then the source I posted meaning that it isnt worth a hill of beans as a source. Oh really yet again? I just went to and checked your claim and found that they have clearly stated that 51% of the public DOES NOT want Homosexuals as grade school teachers, in short NOT saying what you are claiming they said. Pretty weird to lie about a source that you are trying to use as a source. Oh and BTW the poll I did find says that over 61% of the US has NOT changed their opinion of homosexuals being in the wrong and 77% say there is no discrimination against Homosexuals. 67% dont want homosexual marriage. BUSTED!!!

            So lets recap. You have lied repeatedly on everything you claimed and I provided the same sources that you claimed to use that clearly do not say what you are trying to claim they said. IN short…YOU LIED. BUSTED yet again. Now that you have been so badly destroyed in your claims, slink off somewhere and dont come back unless you are willing to tell the truth.

          • sharkaen

            Trying comparing that to the statistics of heterosexual couple that do that and you will find that it happens much more often then with homosexuals, and all you religious people need to look at your own church for rape of boys by your priests. The homosexual problem is more rampant in your religion then any where else.

          • Daniel Gray

            read the above statement showing that you are just as ignorant as the so called “progressive republican” is.Almost all the priests that have been shown to have molested children have admitted to being homosexual or have homosexual tendencies.. yet again…BUSTED!

          • sharkaen

            Busted my ass. You aren’t even smart enough to understand the statement I said so how in the hell can you bust me. Try looking up those statistics and see what they are before you try to bust any one.The homosexual problem that I am referring to is the molesting of young boys. It is higher in the church then any where else in society and I blame that on the fact that the church decided to go against the bible and stop priests from marrying because of the greed that they employ. If priests were allowed to marry then there would be less chance of this activity taking place because most of us has known of older same sex couples that have lived together all their lives and never dated and married any one of another sex and no one ever bothered them or persecuted them. The reason we have this problem is that the church decided to stick their nose in. There would have been no problems if this same situation did happen in the church if marriage was still allowed and some same sex couples were the priest and his live in. Just like in prison, when there is no opposite sex around, then some people will get sex from some one who is available. When you force a situation on some one then some times they fall prey to the situation. and do not follow their natural course.

          • Fred

            Would you say that to Jesus face.

          • Progressive Republican

            Are you telling me that you think Jesus would be stupid enough to back up the claims of a proven, demonstrable liar with a biblical quote? Seriously?

          • panors77

            Are you seriously thinking that Jesus would seriously back up the claims of homosexuals despite his edicts both Old and New testaments?

          • Progressive Republican

            What claims are you talking about?

          • sharkaen

            You have to remember that the bible is made up of books that man wrote and they only put in the parts that they wanted. they left out thousands of written pages because the men who put it together did not believe in them not that they were not true. The bible is a bigoted book and not the words of God or Jesus. If God or Jesus wrote the book itself then you could spout about the true words and meaning, but that is not what happened, so you can only go by what man decided you needed to hear not what god or Jesus wanted you to really know.

          • may12553

            Yes……I would. He would understand.

          • Rosalund

            Our country used to be lead by Christian people. Now its gone to whatever a group of people want to call the new normal. I am sick that my grandkids might be lead to become homosexual for I am sure there is no more girl and boy taught in schools.

          • sharkaen

            You are homosexual at birth and the sooner you people realize this then life can go on for all people. And no one is led to homosexuality by knowing it exists. that is like saying your kids will be led to rape and murder because they see it on the news.

          • Daniel Gray

            really? and your proof is what exactly?

          • sharkaen

            I have been around Homosexuals since birth and I have never been molested by any one of them and have never been led to be one by them nor have I ever decided that I wanted to be one of them just because I have been around them all my life. I knew that I was heterosexual and have had no problem with any one that is not. They have done nothing to screw up my life and I doubt if any one of them has done anything to screw up yours. These people have never been involved with anyone of the opposite sex. So you can’t say that they were pushed that way by a bad relationship, I was born in the country around many animals and have seen many times that some of the animals were only interested in their same sex. Homosexuality is not just a human trait, it goes throughout the entire animal kingdom. If you had done any research at all instead of just believe what has been told to you then you wouldn’t even have to ask that question. Most of the gay people out there know that they are what they are before they even reach puberty. Same as straight people.

          • voter suppression

            Prove you statement with hard unbiased facts. Otherwise the drivel is yours.

          • Progressive Republican

            Are you talking about proving that Raymond just cut-and-pasted that or that the author was almost immediately discredited due to his promulgating information that was known to be false when he disseminated it?

            Or are you talking about the U.K. study whose source I cited in the comment? Be specific.

          • may12553

            Thank you Progressive Republican. Copy and paste Raymond needs to think for himself.

          • Progressive Republican

            Superman couldn’t hold his breath long enough waiting for that to happen. Don’t you try.

          • panors77

            Your screen name is an oxymoron. :)

          • Progressive Republican

            Didn’t used to be, waay back when

          • Fred

            I hope that you don’t actually believe any of your BOGUS statistics.

          • Raymond

            Fred, it’s time for you to come out of the closet.

          • Goober

            Conventional wisdom is that children of same-sex parents do as
            well as, or even better than children from intact, two-parent married
            households. Many studies make that assertion.

            It is massively wrong according to a new, very large, thorough study
            published this week by the journal Social Science Research. It was written by
            Mark Regnerus, a scholar at the University of Texas. The New Family
            Structures Study, or NFSS, is a breakthrough report.

            Regnerus compares how young adult children, aged 18-39, of a
            parent who has had a same-sex relationship fare on 40 different social,
            emotional and relational outcomes when compared with traditional and other

            The biggest differences were between children of women who have
            had a lesbian relationship – and those raised by still-married biological

            Fully 69 percent of those with lesbian mothers were on welfare
            as children – four times the 17 percent in intact families ever had that
            experience. In fact, 38 percent of the adult children of lesbian mothers
            are currently on welfare versus only 10 percent of those with married parents.
            That’s the same 4-1 ratio.

            Only 8 percent of adult children from intact homes were
            unemployed when interviewed in 2011 versus 28 percent with a lesbian parent.

            What’s most shocking is that only two people of those with
            married parents were ever touched sexually by a parent or an adult – while 23
            percent of those with a lesbian mother had that experience! Golly, they
            are 11 times more apt to be molested!

            The design of the NFSS research was brilliant.

            Most research on the impact of homosexual parenting has relied
            on interviews with same-sex parents who are from convenience samples. For
            example, the National Longitudinal Lesbian Family Study conducted last year
            “recruited entirely from self-selection from announcements posted at lesbian
            events, in women’s bookstores and in lesbian newspapers in Boston, Washington and San Francisco.”

            Such a sample is biased toward including better-educated,
            wealthier people who visit bookstores. What about the less educated or
            less likely to be employed? They aren’t interviewed. Of course, the
            children of these more affluent parents are more apt to do well.

            By comparison, NFSS asked 3,000 young adults if either of their
            parents had a same-sex relationship while they were growing up. Result:
            175 reported their mother was in a homosexual relationship, and 73 said the
            same about their father. That’s about 1.7 percent, a figure comparable to other
            studies. The sampling was so carefully done that it included both those
            with listed phone numbers and those who only use cell phones (about half the

            Only 23 percent said they had spent at least three years in the
            same household with a romantic partner of their mother; an additional 57
            percent did so for at least four months.

            Among those with a father in a homosexual relationship, fewer
            than 2 percent said they had spent at least three years in that household.
            These relationships are much more volatile and short lived, but neither
            compares with the stability of married heterosexual parents.

            Also, by interviewing young adults of homosexual parents, we can
            see how the experience shaped their adult lives. This is vastly more
            useful information than asking volunteer same-sex parents if their kids are
            doing well. Of course, they say

            More results: Three times as many young adults of lesbians were
            currently cohabiting as those with married parents (24 percent versus 9
            percent). Even more young adults (31 percent) of divorced parents were living
            together. Twice as many from intact homes were employed full time as those with
            lesbian mothers.

            Only 5 percent of those with married parents had considered
            suicide in the past year versus 12 percent of those with lesbian parents and 24
            percent with homosexual fathers. That’s five times those from intact homes.
            Similarly, a young adult of married parents is less than half as likely to be
            in therapy “for a problem connected with anxiety, depression, or relationships”
            – as those with homosexual parents (8 percent versus 19 percent).

            Only 12 percent of young adults with married parents had ever
            cheated while married or cohabiting, but a big 40 percent of adult children of
            lesbians had done so.

            Just 8 percent of those from intact homes had ever been forced
            to have sex against their will versus 31 percent with lesbian parents and 25
            percent of “gay” parents.

            These are huge differences.

            They should be cited by those opposed to same-sex marriages.

            In the last two weeks, I helped gather signatures for a
            statewide referendum on whether to reverse a vote by the Maryland Legislature
            legalizing same-sex marriage.

            Michael J. McManus is
            president of Marriage Savers and a syndicated

          • Libtard

            u should jump in a pool and take a DEEEEP breathe

          • Raymond

            Why would I want to talk with someone who
            calls himself/herself a libtard???

          • georgegallo

            Ya, I was thinking the same thing. The baker must be gay???

          • caskinner

            No I don’t think he is but you……..good possibility.

          • georgegallo

            Thanks for the leeway.

          • Harold

            Fools never cease to amaze me!

          • Howard

            Harold you are so correct.

          • georgegallo

            Meaningless, waste of a post. Come on man, say something.

        • Truth goes 100 MPH

          “He must have BROUGHT my book?” Bad spellers will never get served here if you want to pick on Rex.

        • James Maxwell

          Tain’t no doubt about it definatly flys the rainbow flag on the bedpost at night. My
          business, I invested the money, built it from the ground up and run it according to
          my beleifs. Open and Honest and I reserve the righ to refuse service in a repectful
          manner if I do not care for the customer or thier requidst. Bye Bye

          • georgegallo

            James, I Respectfully thank you for your service to this country. GG

        • Raymond

          I too will not serve homosexuals, regardless of
          the so-called law.

          • Tom

            Question: HOW do you know who is Gay and who isn’t?

          • Raymond

            In the year 2013 sodomites are in everyones
            face about who they are. If I see a rainbow flag
            I’m gone.

          • Libtard

            ur probably in the closet urself. come out its ok

          • Raymond

            Your screen name says it all.

          • Citizen60

            Thank you for using the correct term…it really annoys me how they perverted the word gay.

          • Fred

            Don’t talk like a fool man.

          • Ray_Downen

            It’s easy to tell a homosexual if a woman wants to “marry” another woman or a man wants to tie the knot with another man. Most wedding cakes do mention the name of the bride and groom. For the baker to ask is simply common sense. To refuse to provide support for a “wedding” of which he could not approve is surely his right.

          • Rosalund

            pretty easy when you are making a wedding cake and they both are brides.

          • vickie

            it was obvious in this case. the woman admitted it.

        • Raymond

          If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. Leviticus 20:13

          Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet. Romans 1: 24, 25, 26, 27.

          The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman’s garment: forall that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God. Deuteronomy 22:5.

          Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner,giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. Jude 7

          Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind. 1 Corinthians 6: 9.

          Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine. 1 Timothy 1:9,10.

          And if a man lie with a beast, he shall surely be put to death: and ye shall slay the beast. And if a woman approach unto any beast,and lie down thereto, thou shalt kill the woman, and the beast: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. Lev 20: 15, 16.

          Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion. Leviticus 18: 22, 23.

        • Raymond

          Some statistics about the Homosexual lifestyle:

          • One study reports 70% of homosexuals admitting to having sex only one time with over 50% of their partners (3).

          • One study reports that the average homosexual has between 20 and 106 partners per year (6). The average heterosexual has 8 partners in a lifetime.

          • Many homosexual sexual encounters occur while drunk, high on drugs, or in an orgy setting (7).

          • Many homosexuals don’t pay heed to warnings of their lifestyles: “Knowledge of health guidelines was quite high, but this knowledge had no relation to sexual behavior” (16).

          • may12553

            We get your point. You don’t like gays. You do however like to copy and paste.

          • PennJim

            I believe that Raymond’s point is that being ‘gay’ is unhealthy, personally, to those involved and to society, in general. It’s not about personal likes or dislikes.

          • Raymond

            God forbids sodomy, are you judging God???

        • Raymond

          • Homosexuals got homosexuality removed from the list of mental illnesses in the early 70s by storming the annual American Psychiatric Association (APA) conference on successive years. “Guerrilla theater tactics and more straight-forward shouting matches characterized their presence” (2). Since homosexuality has been removed from the APA list of mental illnesses, so has pedophilia (except when the adult feels “subjective distress”) (27).

          • Homosexuals account for 3-4% of all gonorrhea cases, 60% of all syphilis cases, and 17% of all hospital admissions (other than for STDs) in the United States (5). They make up only 1-2% of the population.

          • Homosexuals live unhealthy lifestyles, and have historically accounted for the bulk of syphilis, gonorrhea, Hepatitis B, the “gay bowel syndrome” (which attacks the intestinal tract), tuberculosis and cytomegalovirus (27).

          • 73% of psychiatrists say homosexuals are less happy than the average person, and of those psychiatrists, 70% say that the unhappiness is NOT due to social stigmatization (13).

          • 25-33% of homosexuals and lesbians are alcoholics (11).

          • Of homosexuals questioned in one study reports that 43% admit to 500 or more partners in a lifetime, 28% admit to 1000 or more in a lifetime, and of these people, 79% say that half of those partners are total strangers, and 70% of those sexual contacts are one night stands (or, as one homosexual admits in the film “The Castro”, one minute stands) (3). Also, it is a favorite past-time of many homosexuals to go to “cruisy areas” and have anonymous sex.

          • 78% of homosexuals are affected by STDs (20).

        • draeh2020

          Not me fag boy!!

          • georgegallo

            You are a class act. I’ll tell ya though, I have never gotten so much feedback from a post. I guess I struck a nerve. And what does, “Not me fag boy!!” refer to. It’s kind of an incomplete thought. Maybe you meant, “Not, me fag boy!!” Please explain. Thanks.

        • BMW Metro


          • georgegallo

            Man you guys are strict. I will never make that mistake again.

        • may12553

          The baker has a right to turn away the customer……..I don’t agree with him either….but it’s his right.

        • kaj

          The owner HAS THE RIGHT to refuse service. It’s not a govt. run bakery. Well not yet.
          I would be willing to bet if he refused service for something you did not like, then it would be ok. If people don’t like his policies, then they don’t have to give him their business.

          • georgegallo

            Yeah, I think you’re right. People don’t have to go there. But I’ll tell ya, nothing travels faster than the words of a dissatisfied customer.

          • geeshim

            Look what it did for chick fillet

          • Donald York

            Chic fil et’s business is booming.

          • georgegallo

            Yes, Chick Fil A’s profits went up 12% in 2012. However the opened 92 new stores in 2011 and 96 new stores in 2012. The new stores represent about 11% of their total stores. So basically not too much of a change there. Also, Cathy (owner) has back-off from his initial stance. Next.

        • 57girl

          So what if someone is denied service with Mr. Klien? There are other bakeries. That used to be the beauty of America and the idea of a free marketplace based on supply and demand. Money is green and without gender. If a business owner chooses to forgo a sale due to his/her own personal beliefs, then that is the flip side of freedom of choice coin. I’m 100% heterosexual, but hey, if two chicks choose to marry each other, then that is also freedom of choice … not everybody has to condone their choice, either. In both cases, who the hell is either party hurting, other than themselves? Why should any of the rest of us even care?

        • Richard Bensen

          You’r amusing.I’m almost sure only if you are a top or bottom and want a wedding cake.That is what the article is about,not your typical victim attitude you poor thing you.All pokes aside.This is his God given right to stand against what he sees as immoral

        • Dennis

          If i am so be it.after all its his business and he can run it how he seems fit.I can always find another baker.You act like hes the only one in town.So you think turning away one customer is going to hurt him? I think not.On the contrary this is going to backfire in the faces of the sodomites as usual.

          • georgegallo

            I don’t get it. “You act like hes (he’s) the only one in town.” I think that came from you and not anything I posted. One customer? Believe me, this isn’t the type of publicity a retail store owner wants. Prediction: Apology.

        • rangers53

          Only if you’re gay!

          • georgegallo

            Rangers53. Come on. Come up with a real post. Put some thought into it. I mean, you are for open and blatant discrimination, right?

        • Jenn Fluck Sanders

          So it’s okay for you to give someone a hard time about typing “abusement” but it’s alright for you to say he “brought” your book? Seems kind of like the pot callng the kettle black!

          • georgegallo

            Hey, it’s absolutely OK. First of all this has been addressed twice. And one is a typo (my bad) and the other is not a word. I find “abusement” amusing and/or clever. So yeah, I busted his chops about it. Jeez, make an amendment to the constitution, will ya. No more picking on non-words if you make a spelling mistake. By the way, “he brought my book” is just fine. Where did he bring it? To his bakery, so he could have it close by for reference. Ta Dah. Please read all posts. Thanks.

        • Elijah

          J C Penny is feeling the effects of being Pro Gay, I would say mr. Kleins business will increase.

          • georgegallo

            Hey, we will see what happens. I’m thinking it (this controversy) is not gonna help. You’re thinking it might be a boost. We both will probably be ‘crappin’ on about other issues months from now, but the outcome will be interesting. Although I think Mr. Klein has commit a business error, I don’t wish the pain of a failing business on anyone. It’s a killer. P.S.: I did not know anything about J C Penny. Will look it up.

        • redgma

          He never refused to serve her in the past. She said this was her favorite bakery. He clearly had a religious objection to same sex marriage. That gives him the right not to participate if he didn’t want to.

        • Gail Steelhammer-Cohen

          – probably a typo – I think he was targeted because of his beliefs – – this is not like a hospital or grocery store where someone would be deprived of food or essential medicine – always another bakery – this does not deprive them of their assets or their health. Same is true of photographers or painters – in depicting a homosexual relationship the artist would feel that it would look like he is pro-gay marriage – making wedding cakes is an art form – what person would want someone to make a cake, or photograph or painting for an important occasion to them if the artist or baker does not have his heart in it – perhaps his lawyer should take that tack.

          • gcubed

            Hi. Probably not a typo. Look at Rex’s comment. I believe he meant “abuse.” Typing “ment” is quite a typo. Hey, the baker feels he can do whatever he wants, I just think it is a bad business move. Lots of comments have mentioned that the customer can go elsewhere. Sure, let all businesses randomly discriminate against various groups and let the customers find the ones that will serve them. Certainly, that is free enterprise at its loftiest heights. Good point that a wedding cake is a non-essential item. This gives the right to discriminate kind of discriminatorily. And art… I personally have made making change and cooking hot dogs an art form, so I am gonna start discriminating on those grounds (though I don’t really have to). So where does that end. But yes you are 100% right about the commitment to making the cake for this occasion. Let’s see what happens to this artist.

      • Raymond

        The Oregon Department of Justice is pro homosexual.

        • Frank J. Austin

          Pro Ho Mo Quid pro quo ?

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        • Morris Mahan

          Likje San Francisco, perhaps for the same reason……

          • Raymond


        • TAM44

          Sir your always at the top of your game and I have never read a bad post from you.

      • Claims1

        One is lead to believe that Mr. Klein owns and operates the ONLY bakery in town?? Please try to convince me that this was not a planned attack. You see, this is how the gays go about making their point – one little bakery at a time. Remember when all they wanted was to be recognized, and accepted? Let’s line up all the small bakery shops, and shoot them down like clay pigeons. Meanwhile, I’ll take my stand with Mr. Klein.

        • keepersleeper

          …So will I! Nasty homosexuals…want to infect every aspect of life on the planet!

          • refurb001

            One redeeming thought is that they can’t reproduce….. Or at least without the opposite sex.

    • georgegallo

      You might think so. Well, I have been in many restaurants that wouldn’t serve Blacks, years ago. That has changed a while ago. It might have been written about in newspapers. It was kind of funny, because I was with someone from Malaysia. The confused expressions on the white customers was always very comical. This baker is an idiot. Shut up and bake the cake. If he thinks he has any principals or mis-guided morals, he should not sell any of his crap to people he doesn’t like, not just a wedding cake. Post a sign on the store window, “we don’t serve Lesbians.” But he is probably too chicken to do it. Anyway,who knows, he might have woken up on the wrong side of his boyfriend’s bed. Hey. It would be funny if Leno said it.

      • caskinner

        What part of he doesn’t want to bake them a cake do you not understand?

        • teddie77

          I think the gay person knew he wouldn’t do it from the crosses on the wall & is looking for $$$ in a law suit. Period

          • caskinner

            I think you are right.


        You miss the entire point. He is NOT saying he doesn’t serve lesbians, just will not create a certain THEME, which is offensive.

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      • Raymond

        God forbids sodomy.

      • Raymond

        Psalm 1:1
        Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly,
        nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.

        Psalm 1:2
        But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law
        doth he meditate day and night.

        Psalm 1:3
        And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.

        Psalm 1:4
        The ungodly are not so: but are like the chaff
        which the wind driveth away.

        Psalm 1:5
        Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment,
        nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous.

        Psalm 1:6
        For the LORD knoweth the way of the righteous:
        but the way of the ungodly shall perish.

        • georgegallo

          I’ll tell ya Raymond, if we are supposed to be doing those things in the Psalms, boy are we missing the boat arguing on this site. HaHa. Jokes on us.

      • John Hand w/gunpermit

        Probably too chicken to do it? He looks pretty healthy and strong to me. Why don’t you go to his shop and tell him what you think?

        • georgegallo

          Oh stop. First of all, he seems like a real nice guy, not a fighter. And courage(not being chicken) has nothing to do with health or strength. I’ll say he has some courage to be interviewed and say how he feels. Lots of people would have hid behind closed doors. But, heck, I’ll talk with him. I said what I mean, put a sign like that in the window, “We don’t make wedding cakes for same sex couples.” But hey, buy me the plane ticket. I’ll go. The funny thing is, he probably has no idea how many gay/lesbian customers he already has. Kind of convenient hypocrisy and for that matter, so much for his convictions. So, he will sell them a cupcake, but not a wedding cake.
          Not that it matters much, but my point has nothing to do with lesbians or gays. It has to do with running a retail business. Where you have the right to not serve someone, ya don’t have the right to discriminate. Shoot, I have a retail store and also work in peoples’ yards. The retail store I want to be a place where everyone is welcome and we try to accommodate their needs. My outside work however, I absolutely will not do work for someone I don’t want to. And who falls into that category? Well it has nothing to do with race, sex, religion, etc. It’s usually, people that start out as being a problem. No problem. You have never seen anyone back up their tools so quick. So, I get it. I get the idea of the right not to serve or work for someone. It’s just not based on discriminatory guidelines. The ones we are all familiar with.

      • smartgranny55

        What intolerant sewer did you climb out of?

        • georgegallo

          How the heck did you come up with that post from reading my post? Wow.

          • William McClure

            Your words expose you as intolerant, bigoted, and hateful. Any other questions?

          • georgegallo

            To William McClure: First of all, you are not ‘smartgranny55.’ I’m sure she can answer this herself. Next, you answered nothing. You didn’t write any examples that support your post. It’s amazing how many posts here are supporting blatant discrimination. Believe me this is the wrong person and business to defend. Please read all my posts before you accuse me of these things. Ask yourself, why did you write this? What pissed you off? And don’t come back with more accusations and or name calling. Thanks.

    • Kestrel Blackfeather

      So a business should have the right to hang a sign, “NO BLACKS”?


        Yes. I just will find a BLACK OWNED business.

      • Raymond

        The homosexual agenda:

        •The homosexual agenda includes desensitizing the public: “The first order of business is desensitization of the American public concerning gays and gay rights…..To desensitize the public is to help it view homosexuality with indifference instead of with keen emotion. Ideally, we would have straights register differences in sexual preferences the way they register different tastes for ice cream or sports games….At least in the beginning, we are seeking public desensitization and nothing more. We do not need and cannot expect a full ‘appreciation’ or ‘understanding’ of homosexuality from the average American. You can forget about trying to persuade the masses that homosexuality is a good thing. But if only you can get them to think that it is just another thing…then your battle for legal and social rights is virtually won” (25).

        •Part of the homosexual agenda is to get the public to affirm their filthy lifestyle, as one homosexual admitted in the October 1987 homosexual rally on Washington: “We are no longer seeking just a right to privacy and a protection from wrong. We also have a right — as heterosexual Americans already have — to see government and society affirm our lives” (27).

        •Part of the homosexual agenda is to turn people from Christianity: “The teaching that only male-female sexual activity within the bounds and constraints of marriage is the only acceptable form should be reason enough for any homosexual to denounce the Christian religion” (1).

        •Homosexuals knowingly lied (and still lie) about the 10% figure (i.e., homosexuals make up 10% of the population). As Tom Stoddard (formerly of the Lambda Legal Defense Fund) said, “We used that figure when most gay people were entirely hidden to try to create an impression of our numerousness” (17).

      • smartgranny55

        There is no comparison

    • Sinatra98

      I would have acted the same way if i was in his shoes, i used to be a furniture manufacture there were times when i refused to make custom pieces for certain people, it’s my right to refuse whom i see fit, Bravo for him he stood his ground.

    • Vazir Mukhtar

      If only your philosophy ruled. Check the news for the story about the man who entered a Kroger store with his rifle over his shoulder. Some of the customers called 911, and the police turned up. The rifle man was not arrested but was told by the store manager not to come to the store again. The state is Virginia, which allows one to carry a firearm in certain specified areas.

      My question: which constitutes the greater danger: a concealed firearm (though it’s rather difficult to conceal a rifle) or a firearm holstered and carried openly?

      • VirgoVince

        Thanks much for all the replies, pro and con and the 100 UP votes!! Do we need reminded of the gun-shop owner that placed a sign in his window that he would refuse service to ‘ANYONE that voted for obomao; that they were not smart enough to have/use/own a weapon??’ (paraphrased)
        He didn’t shut down, he got busier than ever!!
        WHY would this need to be moderated????

    • rooster

      That is absolutely right!

      • VirgoVince

        Thanks much for all the replies, pro and con and the 100 UP arrows!! Do we need reminded of the gun-shop-owner that placed a sign in his window that he would refuse service to ‘ANYONE that voted for obozo; that they were not smart enough to have/own a weapon??’ (paraphrased)
        He didn’t shut down, he got busier than ever!!
        WHY would this need to be moderated????

    • VirgoVince

      Thanks much for all the replies, pro and con and the 100 UP arrows!! Do we need reminded of the gun shop owner that placed a sign in his window that he would refuse service to ‘ANYONE that voted for ovomit; that they were not smart enough to have/own a weapon??’ (paraphrased)
      He didn’t shut down, he got busier than ever!!
      WHY would this need to be moderated????

    • Karen Morrison Sutton

      AMEN to that!

    • Morris Mahan

      It’s called free enterprise. No government agency, or court has the right to dictate whom a business must serve. that business simply looses that person(s) business. Simple economics.

    • Grandpa David

      Virgo Vince, I agree with you, but the law is probably going to win. A business can’t refuse service to customers because they are black (anymore). If he refused to make a cake because they were black it would be clear. A wedding is for a marriage and I agree a marriage is between a man and a woman,

    • 1950semperfi

      I agree with your statement —If he wants to refuse a customer that is his right to do it —Why are they wasting time investigating this???

  • caskinner

    Okay lets talk about violating the law. The lesbians are violating God’s law. I would not bake them a cake either. God’s law is the law Christians should go by not man’s law.

    • Deborah G

      I say let them all marry no more liberals will be reproduced.

      • GM Thatcher

        Uhhhh, well, two lesbians here in Vt married and recently had a beautiful baby girl.

        • caskinner

          Not possible. There had to be a man involved some way.

      • Paula

        Good point!

      • mallen11

        The problem with that is they will adopt babies or implant from donors and have babies. They are sick to think two mommies or two daddies can raise a child to be normal. It is hard enough for a husband and wife to raise normal children. There is enough confusion in this world; why make it worse?

        • MARYANN33

          They will indoctrinate your child….

          • Raymond

            Sodomites are only interested in sexually molesting kids.

          • MARYANN33

            Always on the prowl…It was a law that it was illegal and needs to be again…

        • teddie77

          I don’t care what anyone is or does in their bedroom, but every time I hear them announce they’re homosexuality, I want to take a page in the newspaper and announce I’m heterosexual.
          Do what they want just don’t bring the little babies into it. My son has a gay sister-in-law who was inseminated & had a boy & he is so frickin’ lost. All’s he ever wants to do is go over to his uncle’s house & hang out & do guy things. I feel so sorry for him, it’s sad

          • caskinner

            Yes it is because their “mother” was so selfish. If she wants something to love get a dang dog.

          • Raymond

            Proverbs 10
            13In the lips of him that hath understanding wisdom is found:
            but a rod is for the back of him that is void of understanding.

          • mallen11

            I know how you feel. I worked with many homosexuals in SF and believe me they expected you to accept their lifestyle as normal. Here is what happened one time…
            I worked for a large company in San Francisco and for the most part the gays I worked around kept their way of life to themselves and I ignored it. I never had a problem until a new man was hired as an executive assistant and was put in my office area. He was constantly on the phone talking to his “lover” with language that should not be heard in any office even from heterosexuals. When he tried to talk to me about his relationship, I politely said that I wasn’t interested in hearing about his private life. This offended him and would keep trying to talk to me about things they did and wanted to do. I finally told him that I did not agree with his lifestyle and did not want to hear about it. This REALLY offended him. He went to our HR department and let them know what I said. I got “called on the carpet” and was told I could not say what I said. I had to watch some discrimination movies. God took care of me. It so happened that the head of the HR was a lesbian but the person who talked with me was a Christian woman who understood my situation even though she had to “parrot” their policy. After I was reprimanded I asked her; what would have happened if I talked to you about not liking what he was saying to me? Would you believe that I was told; “I don’t know”. Talk about discrimination! I did find out later that he was told not to talk about his lifestyle in front of me and our office was soon moved to another building and he was on the other side of the building from me. I also found out from him that his lover did not live with him but put him on his company insurance. He let me know that they try to find jobs where companies allow “partners” on their insurance policy. About nine months later he moved to Hawaii. He was shocked that I did not agree with his lifestyle.

      • GrizzMann

        Ever hear of turkey baster inception?

        • caskinner

          Funny how they don’t “like” men but they don’t mind a man’s sperm swimming in the “pool”.

    • Norma Jean Buhle

      Thank you for stating the truth. If they only understood that there was one, in The Bible, who initiated, put into play the 1st sin (Pride–thinking he should be on the same level as GOD, or higher) and the 2nd sin (rebellion against GOD, and what HE set up) Satan did both of these, and then tempted Adam/Eve to do the same—to do what was right in their own sight instead of what is right in GOD’S sight. GOD was in charge of the consequences. If we ignore GOD and do what is right in our own sight, look who we would be siding with!

    • MARYANN33

      Religious beliefs used to be enough to get us out of participation in things we believe are bad for us…Making a gay cake would be bad for me.

    • Kevin B

      The State of Oregon could give a crap about God’s law. They just want to prosecute Civil complaints and collect the fines.

    • Raymond

      Proverbs 3
      33The curse ofthe LORD is in the house of the wicked:
      but he blesseth the habitation of the just.

  • tom

    When a state agency is investigating something like this it is clear their Department of Justice doesn’t have enough to do. Second, grow up. If he doesn’t want to make the cake just go to someone who does. It is his, the baker’s, choice whom he will do business with, what he is willing/able to do. But through intimidation, threats of investigation, law suits (that’s probably coming next), we are being cowed into accepting the unacceptable, tolerate the intolerable and paste on a smile through it all.

    • MARYANN33

      And the worst of it all is being forced to allow Obama one more day…

    • 2011RedSox

      Quite true… heck the federal DOJ doesn’t have time to look into progressive fascist thuggery at voting booths, but they sure as h-e-double hockey stick look into the “EVIL’ of religious conviction – except of course for JIHADISTS!

  • Mort Leith

    This is like investigating a Muzlim ODumbo-ite for not eating PORK ! ! !

    • MARYANN33

      Make them it pork. If not you might offend the pig….

  • Deborah G

    This is what America has come too gays getting the law after a guy who has the Legal right same as they do to frewe speech. They will target him as a hate crime agaisnt gays and lesbians. So what why should nayone be forced to go against their convictions. even if it is racist if you don’t like someone or a group why should the governemnt be allowed to interfere with a legal business.

    • MARYANN33

      If they force you to make it…pee in their cake….

      • caskinner

        They would be wise to go somewhere else. LOL

  • thunderbob

    Stories like this just kill me! It’s not like there aren’t other bakeries in the area. So, why is this one singled out? Because the homosexual’s know the courts will give them the verdict they want! There is no discrimination here, but there is bullying for sure. Like the previous statement, we are no longer a free society! We must go the Homosexual’s a dose of their own medicine! We also need to stick to our beliefs to court act the homosexuals agenda!

    • caskinner

      Amen thunder

    • Bill Blackburn


    • Nuzzybuzz

      Was this bakery singled out because of the owner’s stance? I wouldn’t be surprised. Sorry, but it is the owner’s choice and right whether or not he wants the business. Govt leave him alone!!

      • teddie77

        Of course it was singled out by the crosses on his wall. The gay already knew it wouldn’t get the cake with 2 females on it. gay will sue for the $$$$$$$$

    • MARYANN33

      All bakeries should get on board and refuse to decorate cakes for same sex couples or to sell to them..We have a right to our own beliefs.

      • Andy

        are you sure about that.Do we realy have a choice on what we do or say???

        • MARYANN33

          I think we still have some choice, but it is going fast while Americans only play with their electronics.

        • MARYANN33

          We need to band together and find out…We certainly need to do something.

    • teddie77

      The gay went on purpose & already knew he wouldn’t make a gay cake. She knew he was Christian by the crosses on the wall. Gay wants $$$ in a law suit, it’s about getting $$$

  • Babsan

    #1:The Dictator must go.# 2 The Gay activists must adhere to whats “normal”i.e.I can refuse service to whoever in my private business.# 3.The pandering libs need to be voted out

    • Paula


  • EnemyoftheState

    The professional homosexual lobbyists are turning from being part of a persecuted minority to being tolerated, to being fascists – the litigation is being proposed by people who are nasty vile and vicious with a clearly demonic agenda. When America legislates evil as a good thing God will withhold His blessing and America will be cursed.

    • boone1

      America is already cursed because of it’s homosexuals agenda and will stay that way because of it’s immoral ways.

      • 4PERCENTER

        Oh, we are not ‘cursed’ yet! God is using us to protect Israel until He comes back. You ain’t seen ‘cursed’ until the last man turns to Him, then He’s done with the leftovers who REFUSE to Reverence Him, and surrender to Him. If you are a born-again believer, in Jesus Christ, read Revelation and Rejoice at the Prophecy of His return. If you are still lost in your sin, read Revelation and be afraid; be VERY afraid! If you think the world is bad now, God is about to show you His WRATH, not seen since B.C.!!! What a hardhearted creature we are! WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Iran, tsunamis, earthquakes, super-storms, infanticide, pornography, adultery, fornication, false idols, false prophets, covetousness, stealing, bearing false witness against others, just breaking ALL the Commandments, AIDS – all this is man’s making, not God’s Will. If ALL THIS has not convinced humans that we need a major “time out”, to fall on our face like dead man, and scream bloody murder to God, for Repentance, and forgiveness, nothing will! Assume the position, because this plane is going down! Heck, even the pilot doesn’t seem to know we are crashing (drink in one hand, flight attendant on his lap, and a picture of his ex-wife and children in his wallet…SMH)! My, my, my! Be Ye Glorified oh LORD. Forgive us Lord Jesus. Save Your lost enemies, for we were once Your lost enemies! Increase us in Wisdom, Knowledge, and boldness Holy Spirit, before it is Everlasting too late! The house is on fire! Convince them to come out Holy Spirit! LORD, we know this is Your Will, so we are BEGGING YOU!!!!!!



  • Deborah G

    How about “gee Id love to but I’m all booked up that week” Same messege

  • Simon Bolivar

    While yoiu may strongly disagree with Aaron Klein’s reasons, as a business person in a (supposedly) free country he should be able to choose who he wishes to do business with.

  • Joe Melchiorre

    SO it is his business, if he wants to bake a cake for them or not. The government ought to learn to stay out of private business until it learns to handle their own affairs!!

  • Beedogs

    WelKome to the Obamanation of the USSA where you have NO freedom left.

  • junebug

    Good for you mr. Baker. These freaks can get some of their own kind to do that. Im proud of you.

    • MARYANN33

      Gays are so big on decorating…There are gay bakers….

  • Richard Brophy

    I’ve been thinking about events like this lately, and I have to wonder. I’m as staunch a conservative as any, but does refusing to make a cake for gays really what God tells us to do? The Bible says we should not engage in homosexuality, but baking a cake for a gay couple doesn’t make you a homosexual. The really valid refusal is when a church refuses to marry a gay couple. Other than that, I’m beginning to think it’s disobedience to Jesus who said “Love one another” and “judge not”. If we are going to be so rash in judging people, should businesses also reserve the right to turn away prostitutes, promiscuous people, liars, etc.? If a business served a prostitute, does it mean it condones prostitution? I’m beginning to think conservatives are taking it a little too far sometimes.
    Having said that, our society permits a business the right to refuse service to anyone, but they also shouldn’t be surprised of the consequences when they don’t follow Jesus’ commandments.

    • CharlieFromMass

      This is probably the most single intelligent thing I’ve read here, and on any of these forums in a long time, and that includes a lot of the articles.

      Nicely said and a gentle reminder that none of us are perfect and that the hardline many on our side tow make us look as bad, if not worse, than the hardline on the left.

      • Debra JM Smith

        Christians are to have nothing to do with works of darkness. We are called to reprove such things, not participate in them. — Ephesians 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

      • caskinner

        My only concern is living a life by the laws God has provided and by the scripture in the Bible.

    • Debra JM Smith

      Ephesians 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

    • 2011RedSox

      Always wary when one opens with such things as “I’m as staunch a conservative as any…” or the like…. and then they go on to posit argument quite contrary. Perhaps it’s the radar one must set up to discern seminar Alinsky-ism. Then comes the out of context of the total Biblical message such as “love one another”, “judge not”, ‘woman where are your accusers” without admonisihments from Christ or the rest of the Old and New Testament to stand against and not condone or commit wrongdoing.

      Sure Jesus said the oft quoted “Neither do I condemn thee”: However it seems the progressive in their quasi-Judeo-Christian dialective ALWAYS seem to forget immediately follows is “go, and sin no more.”

      • caskinner

        Excellent comment!!!

  • Nyunt Shwe

    I’m a straight person and will never accept open exercise of non-straight activities, no marriage or no kissing in front of civilised people or whatsoever by the gays or lesbians! They can do it behind the curtain or bush. I support fully the baker! He’s a real man (President Obama is not!).

  • Blaine Kittanning PA

    I agree 100% with his dicision.

  • Kaywhever

    Just when we thought there were no more sain people left, one pops up and they are going to ruin him if they can. This is CHANGE.

  • dntmkmecomoverther

    It’s HIS business, not the state’s. It’s HIS business, not the lesbians. In this country we have the 1st Amendment which guarantees our right to free expression and exercise of our religion. Investigate that Oregon. And then, send this fellow a note saying you’re sorry for stomping on the Constitution and his rights. Boneheads.

  • Catherine Light

    I agree with the Baker!

  • Always_RIGHT2

    Good for this guy. Hope/pray he wins the fight, but knowing Oregon’s liberal weenie govt, who knows what will happen. Other thoughts to ponder – would a Jewish baker be forced to make a Christian cake? Would a Muslim baker be forced to make a Christian cake? When answering those questions in your head, keep in mind this is a Christian country, founded on Christian principles. Christianity is a central reason the pilgrims came here. Christianity is all over the monuments in DC and embedded in all our founding documents. And marriage is a Christian sacrement/ceremony whereby God is joining a man and a woman. Liberals can’t redefine what marriage is and then force everyone to accept it. They may be able to find some liberal wackos in govt who will go along with them, but that doesn’t make it right. Homosexuality is wrong. In the USA, we are tolerant of differences, but it doesn’t mean we need to accept them, celebrate them, and accommodate them. The gays should go find a baker who specializes in chocolat dildos or cherry pies and figurines of two lesbians intertwined or two guys doing it doggystyle – whatever – but don’t force this good Christian into making one for you and your deviant partner’s deviant bible-defying sinful union! Have a nice day! Cheerfully yours always,

    • har82

      I am sure they have some – muslim – shops and businesses in Oregon. Perhaps it’s time to see how free we still are and have them make some Christian , or Jewish food or cakes or whatever muslims hate about us lol.
      Let’s see if Oregon prosecutors and investigators have an even hand in things like this . :)

    • Paula

      I don’t think there is a Jewish baker that would refuse to make a wedding cake for a Christian couple. But a muslime wouldn’t do it! He would sue them! And the court would say he was in the right!

      I’m with the consensus that an owner of a store has every right to refuse someone’s business and doesn’t even have to say WHY! We need to get behind this man, like we did with Chick-Fil-A. These lousy liberals are ruining our country and we have NO one in government to take up our side! They are ALL afraid to offend everyone but the people who are paying their salaries!

      • mallen11

        Right, it was one of the main downfalls of Rome.

  • har82

    Anyone remember those signes on all stores not so long ago that read – no shoes , no shirt , no service ??.

    That meant that the – owner – could choose who his – customers – ,,, were.

    Of course , that was long ago back in – Free America – long before all this – political correctness BULL S H I T – set in from the communist party of democraps …..

    • MARYANN33

      I have the right to refuse service to anyone…It is still posted.

      • har82

        That has always been the right of a business owner. There are some people whose homes I wouldn’t work on as well. But the – PC – democraps ,, would take that right clean away from you in a heartbeat if they thought they could get away with it. In fact they are doing just that ,, in a round about way lol. Communists will never be straight ,, and up front with ” anyone ” . They always ,, come at you ,, and your rights from behind or out of the dark ( in secrecy , ever notice politicians love doing things after hours at night , in – closed meetings – ?? ) . You keep your sign up. And fight for it . The – democrap communists – would have you believe you are alone. But you are not ,,, alone .

  • Heyeng

    He has a private business and can refuse service to anyone. It’s not like he’s refusing to provide public accommodations.

  • MAZin Florida

    Hats off to this owner who has the right to stand up to what he believes. We still have religious freedoms in this country, don’t we?

  • MAC49

    POST We have the right to refuse service to anyone. They have their rights and we have ours and don’t infringe on mine, no matter who you are or what you are!

  • FreedomLover
  • LRohde

    Understandably, there is strong disagreement with the state interfering with this bakers freedom to choose. But let’s look at similar situations. Should an apartment owner, or doctor, or supermarket manager have the right to refuse rental or service based on race, religion, sex, or marital status? What about refusing auto insurance for these reasons? In short, where do you draw the line?

    • mallen11

      You draw the line when it goes against God’s requirements of believers in the Lord Jesus Christ and His Word.

  • Karen Sluszka

    It is his bussiness to refuse to make this cake. You cannot force people to do what you want them to do.

  • little k

    OK, hate to pick on “Big D” but it’s NOT personal Big D. (ONE) of the problems we have is that WAY-yy too many people act the same way as Big D and all they ever do is say “JUST SAD……THAT’S ALL” and then go on with their little lives and retreat into the comfort zone of their homes, plop down watch some lame show on TV and hope that the world will be better tomorrow.

  • craig

    cant force him to make anything…fags cant marry ok they are sick

  • auhunter

    You’ve all seen the signs “No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service”, the same thing applies here. Any Company has the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason, they find objectionable, offensive or in bad taste. Hell, when I was in business, I refused service to more than one person for using foul language while in the shop, and bare feet for safety reasons. Foul language they had 10 seconds to clear out or I would physically put them out or call the cops. Don’t know what the laws are in Oregon, but it worked in Washington and here in Arizona.

  • Wally

    Stay the hell out of it !! His choice and his revenue. What the hell has happened to America ??? Find another cake baker on the internet under Lesbian Cake Makers. End of story and quit trying to test and push the agenda. Just get naked with the one you adore and leave everyone else alone.

  • charliinmidGA

    next thing to happen… a MOOSLIM walks into a BBQ joint wanting a “goat” meat sandwich….. and then sues the restaurant because THEY do not serve goat… and then i’d like to order a CAKE from the same MOOSLIM for a CHRISTIAN WEDDING…… wonder where all this will go….

    • theronald

      If a muslim operated a BBQ joint, and I walked and ordered a pork meat sandwich, you know he would refuse to serve me.

    • mallen11

      The muslims are certainly being catered to; even Costco has whole butchered goats & sheep hanging in their big refrigerators for them to buy.

  • ginger

    If I lived in his town I would go and buy something every day….good for him…it is tough to be a Christian these days in this can be anything but a Christian and one has the full protection of the law. So let the “happy couple” find another bakery…it is just a cake for goodness’ sake.

  • Gary Jones

    The right to refuse service I have saw bums refused service at restaurants so why not lesbians and gays. I’m sure they can find a baker within their group. The wedding planner could help find them a baker who is not offended by their demand. I don’t serve gays in my country western bar because of safety reasons. People with nothing in common should not be forced to keep criminals and law abiding citizens. An Obama experiment coming near you soon.

  • Niggishzidda

    There is more to this story than they are telling. There is 3 sides to every story…the middle is the truth.

  • usmc1063

    This is something that erks me to no end. Have those morons in Oregon’s Justice Department lost there minds? What gives them the right to come in and take over anyone’s freedom of choice? As a business owner he has every right in the world to refuse service to anyone he wants to. This is what our nation is turning into a government controled state. Everytime I read a story like this it makes me sick to my stomach. America wake up and stand up for what is right our liberty and freedom is at stake here and it’s time we took it back.

  • countyguard

    Duh… The Constitution guarantees this guy his right to believe, and practice, his religion, so says the 1st Amendment, and the U.S. Supreme Court in Hosanna-Tabor, a case decided January, 2012, 9-0. The state cannot create statutes which violate Constitutional guarantees of rights, period. On top of that, Public Law 97-280 ~ 96 STAT. 1211 ~ 97th Congress, states clearly that the Christian Bible is the Word of God, so, libiodits, what part of those don’t you understand?

  • Jumper82

    Oh if we could just go back to the time before this great country of ours started its moral decline. I fear it is too late to pull ourselves out of the bottom of the slime pit. We have a government that is morally deficient and until that changes we are where we are.

  • Debra JM Smith

    No forced servitude. –U.S. Constitution, 13th Amendment

    • Debra JM Smith

      And notice that the lesbians do NOT care that this husband and wife, with three children, could lose their livelihood. –Homosexuals only care about themselves.

  • davienne

    constitution trumps local and federal laws…… period….

  • theronald

    A private business is part of the private sector, therefore the owner of the private businesses should be able to do business (or not) with whoever he or she wants to.

    • Debra JM Smith

      That’s right. And the 13th amendment promises no forced servitude.

  • mallen11

    I am straight as an arrow and any busness can refuse service to me. Why can’t they refuse service to people they don’t want to serve? They are losing money on the deal but thank God, they are standing on the principles of the Word of God and the right in this country to do business with whom they choose.

    The follow verse (especially V11) could apply in this situation…
    2 John 1:7-11 For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the antichrist. Watch yourselves that you do not lose what we have accomplished, but that you may receive a full reward. Anyone who goes too far and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God; the one who abides in the teaching, he has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house, and do not give him a greeting; for the one who gives him a greeting participates in his evil deeds.

    Homosexuals try to find places like this just so they can either close them down or give them a bad reputation to get people not to buy there. I hope more people will give them business just like we did with Chick Filet-A. Of course the news will blow this out of proportion.

  • wahotsdad

    The problem was the baker was targeted, his website quotes scripture and references when a man and woman unite. So this was a hit by the queer squad hit team. They didn’t give a crep about a cake they wanted to destroy this guy because he was a christian. More BS from those people that just want to be equal, BS!

    • theronald

      Being NORMAL is becomming more and more lonesone every day.

  • SkyDog

    I would suspect you could find a lot of gay bakers in Oregon. Why not just Move On? (Get it?)

    • Debra JM Smith

      They had an agenda.

    • MARYANN33

      Buy your cake in San Francisco…Gay is rampant there….

  • jupiterdogg

    i agree with the baker – lesbo’s are unnatural. they are an abonation to god and to normal god fearing humans let me know if i can help you, mr. baker. i am on your side.

  • Linda Neely

    Facts: homosexuality was listed as a deviant practise by the APA. Sodomy was illegal. What happened? Master and Johnsons study (using deviants in prison for data). Then those practising homosexuality became shrinks and eventually voted to de-list it. Every legal entity and control system of truth failed. They then got Congress to pass the hate crimes act against sexual practicioners and are calling in a race card for it. Next on your horizon? The legalization and protection of pedophilia. Go search the internet


    My father used to tell me, the merchandise (in this case service) belongs to the owner and money belongs to the customer. Each can refuse and there need not be a sale! Since the baker refuses, go elsewhere, I am sure another baker would take the money. What a waste of tax payers $$ with this stupid investigation

  • Hudmar

    It sure show a lot of tolerance on the Gay side eh? There are more than one Bakery.

    • Debra JM Smith

      And notice that the lesbians do NOT care that this husband and wife,
      with three children, could lose their livelihood. –Homosexuals only
      care about themselves.

      • har82

        That Debra ,, is pretty much – all – lib democraps . :)
        The – only – rights they care or worry about ,, – are theirs – . You ,, have none .

  • DocJimmy

    Well said and well done, Aaron. Don’t fold on this issue. The two ‘pillow-biters’ are only challenging you for the political sake of it. Beyond their perverted bedroom antics – they have no life, so this will give them some meaning to exist. They can do what they want behind closed doors, but; STOP shoving it in the faces of heterosexuals (straight people) you pathetic wretches…

  • cae973

    I am really sick and tired of christians being forced to dishonor their own beliefs and gays trying to force us to accept them as normal.

  • jonrmoore

    I would rather fear God than obey man’s law that hates God. What part of “abomination” do people not get?

    • Debra JM Smith


  • RedMeatState

    Harassment!! Nuttin’ but!!
    So did these two bullDykes have other bakeries to choose from or are they making an issue with this guy?
    Walmart will bake them a cake!~

    • Debra JM Smith

      They clearly chose the one with the crosses on the wall.

  • A.L.

    I will order something from them, even if it is nothing but a $25.00 tooth pick. a long way from OR, to texas.

  • mogul264

    He should just have said, “My cakes have ONLY a man and a woman couple on them. Period. And, that’s the ONLY way I make them. If you wish to modify that cake, it is your right. If you want two women on your one cake, buy two conventional cakes, and just use both the female figurines on one cake, again YOUR modification!”

  • georges

    What the H is this country coming to when a person can’t run a business the way they want to without interference from the government?

    • Debra JM Smith

      And Christians are now facing forced servitude, directly against the 13th amendment.

  • Chuck Fowler

    Remember the good old days, when a small business owner could deicide for him/herself what they would offer the buying public and serve or not serve whomever, to be held accountable, not by government at any level but by the market place? If you didn’t like the product or policies of that particular store, you took your business elsewhere and the store owner suffered if a lot of people didn’t like his/her product or policies. Nowadays, government at all levels is too much into too much of all of our business.

    • DAND

      I agree and since this store has nothing to do with racial descrimination the owner should be allowed to choose his customers and set his prices and say no if a potential customer offends him. A bar owner is encourage to refuse a drunk, and a cabbie (in most cities) can refuse a customer because he does not like the way he looks. There was a time in my area where they would refuse you if they did not like your religion

  • J.B.

    This stuff is happening all over. Political correctness is destroying us. One guy who sells Tshirts in Lex, Ky, refused to make commemorative wedding shirts for a queer wedding, and they sued him. One guy who provided carriage rides at weddings, just went out of business when approached by same sex couple. He made over 59K last year doing carriage rides, but said he knew he would be sued if he refused, said it wasn’t worth it, so just folded up shop.

  • old eagle

    I am with the owner all the way. He has a right to refuse anyone he desires. A lesbian baker would have no problem denying a straight couple if they felt like it.

  • U.S.Patriot 001

    as far as I am concerned it is his business and he has the right ot refuse any business transaction he wants to without any explanation of any kind .

  • Unemployed

    The question is, can the 2 sexual partners procreate without outside help?

    • caskinner

      NO not homosexuals…..

  • CJ

    This is not right. It is his Bakery. He should do what he wants & believes in. It’s Constitutional.

    We live in America -the land of the Free & Brave!
    God bless him .

  • Kenneth Michael

    LET THEM EAT EACH OTHER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LET THEM EAT EACH OTHER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LET THEM EAT EACH OTHER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LET THEM EAT EACH OTHER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LET THEM EAT EACH OTHER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LET THEM EAT EACH OTHER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LET THEM EAT EACH OTHER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LET THEM EAT EACH OTHER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LET THEM EAT EACH OTHER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LET THEM EAT EACH OTHER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    LET THEM EAT EACH OTHER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LET THEM EAT EACH OTHER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LET THEM EAT EACH OTHER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LET THEM EAT EACH OTHER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LET THEM EAT EACH OTHER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LET THEM EAT EACH OTHER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LET THEM EAT EACH OTHER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LET THEM EAT EACH OTHER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LET THEM EAT EACH OTHER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LET THEM EAT EACH OTHER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    LET THEM EAT EACH OTHER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LET THEM EAT EACH OTHER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LET THEM EAT EACH OTHER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LET THEM EAT EACH OTHER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LET THEM EAT EACH OTHER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LET THEM EAT EACH OTHER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LET THEM EAT EACH OTHER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LET THEM EAT EACH OTHER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LET THEM EAT EACH OTHER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LET THEM EAT EACH OTHER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Rosalund

    Others have said this but I will again. Many times in businesses I have read signs posted that they have the right to refuse business to anyone. Its your business and you make the rules not the customer…or would be customer. I would have refused had I been in his shoes. Come on America Stop this before all our rights are taken away!!


    It is about freedom…We have the right to refuse service to anyone…FREEDOM…..It violates his religion to bake for homosexuals….

  • Ihatelibs

    Oregon is one f**ked up state


    he should of said yeah ok i’ll do the cake then stiffed them on the wedding day saying he dropped the cake, Oregon is worse then California if thats possible , what a bunch of nonsense.

  • DAND

    It is pretty obvious to me that the Cross on the wall of his shop is the real target here, and the lesbian and or her mother selected the shop because it was there (and maybe he had refused someone else in the LBGT community that they know).
    His first solution is to fight the ruling if lthe courts take the LBGT side, and if he loses then just just publish a shoping list that makes the LBGT cakes 100 times (or 1000 times) the price of his standard Wedding cake (which we all know are not inexpensive anywhere you can buy a good one made to order.

  • KingofThings

    OK you locals, and maybe long distance…give this man so much work to do that he hires more people!!! Wish I was there or had someone nearby to send something to.

  • Raymond Mars

    On the door of any establishment, or om the wall of is a sign which does grant the owner of the place “The right to refuse to serve any one”. That means if they don’t like the way you look, act or possibly like your sexuality, they can tell you to bugger the hell on off. So the Oregon Department of Butt Sniffers, I mean “Justice” can just go on the bugger the hell off!

  • Rosalund

    Baker if this present government forces you to make this cake ….I would do such a poor job and make the cake taste so awful that they would be sorry for messing with you! You know like mistake the amount of sugar for salt or something like that.

  • Kevin B

    Looks like this is going to come down to what exactly the definition of “accommodation” is. Just because someone walks in your door doesn’t mean you have to serve them. A bartender is not going to serve a drunk Lesbian couple a drink. Should he be brought up on charges for denying them service based on their sexual orientation. Of course not. They were drunk period end of story.

    Should the law force a religious baker to bake cakes for same sex couples if he/she doesn’t believe in gay marriage? I’m sure the guy would except any other business from this couple just not a wedding cake. Since it’s his business it should be his prerogative not the states.

    It’s unfortunate for the couple looking for the cake. I have nothing against Lesbian couples. My problem is that a business owner should be able to run his business according to his faith without interference from the state.

    Small Business owners have to stick together and stand up against the States and the Fed’s who are doing their best to tax and regulate us right out of business.

  • Al C

    Good for him. Dont give in. Their lifestyle is an abonimation

  • Don Gaines

    When in business the person has the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason or no reason at all so tell them to sit & spin. just to be polite remember to tell them to Enjoy!!:-)

  • Michael g.

    If they ‘force’ him to make the cake, then make it. Only stuff it full of Ex-lax, and make sure everyone has to to take a big bite.

  • Marlene Berggren

    Why do homosexuals always get more rights than a regular person. We have rights too! If I don,t want to sit with one or talk to one or bake a cake for one, that is my right and business. I have close friends who are homosexual and they are not militants, and I do not do the things mentioned, but if they started acting like they are special I would certainly let them know they are no better than you or me. Homosexuals should be told by someone in authority to get a gripe because they are just like the rest of us and no better than.

  • kds

    tell the que–s to go elsewhere

  • John M Rolwing

    We have a world and our Country in turmoil, and THIS qualifies as just how far DOWN the intelligence ladder we have fallen. Geez, find another baker, or else go straight.

  • Lonesome


  • janinelargent

    People without faith do not understand people who live their faith. There is no Christian basis for homosexual relationships. Many homosexuals seek out business people of faith intentionally in order to challenge their faith. Maybe they should seek out a nice Muslim bakery to make their cake for them. There is a deliberate attempt to manipulate Christianity by many homosexuals because although they are not practicing the faith they want the endorsement of God on their behavior. Essentially they want to have their cake and eat it too.

  • Lonesome


  • Dean Gilbert

    This is garbage. If they even think about punishing him, I’d better not see any establishment with that sign that says “We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone”. Might have to put a lawsuit against the state for a discrimination.

  • Nancy Law

    I wouldn’t make it either! INVESTIGATE ME TOO!


  • Nancy Law

    I would NOT want the business of HOMOSEXUALS.
    It violates my religion and sets a terrible example for my kids.

  • len


  • Bob

    It looks like there is no reason for me to move north to Oregon. I’ll just stay in California where the weather is nicer and there are strong anti-smoking laws. As long as I can defend myself without the aid of a self-loader, I’ll do just fine here. I know how to cock a hammer and shift gears, so I can deal with the incompetents.

  • 1JBRice1

    Leviticus 20:13

    If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.

    • Vazir Mukhtar

      You’ll find similar remarks in the Christian Bible as well. See Paul’s writings.

      An acquaintance who teaches theology suggests that the biblical prohibition against homosexuality is rooted in God’s directing Adam and Eve to be fruitful and multiply, to fill the earth and subdue it. Homosexuals being unable to be fruitful or multiply (or add, at least to the population), they were obviously unable to do as God bade Adam and Eve. Hence, homosexuality was forbidden.

  • Benjamin

    THIS IS WHAT IS DESTROYING THIS COUNTRY—A SINGLE PERSON DESTROYS A COUNTRY’S FREEDOM by destroying small businesses;etc., gay gets pissed because bakery refuses to bake a queer cake; ETC.,Roe vs Wade illegal abortion , allows the murder of a living infant baby; Supreme Court rules in favor of Darwin ,etc., man comes from ape family;
    well—-why would a man marry a man and why in hell would a woman marry a woman ????? Ye gods
    America is going to hell in a hand basket.

    • Sinatra98

      Right on Bob

  • Vazir Mukhtar

    A bakery is hardly a public accommodation. If you’ve got the b**** and the wallet for it, I’d say go for the investigation and if your lawyer is up for it and has the moxie, find a way to sue, kid.

    Even if you win only $1 and court costs, you’ve made an important point.

  • steamdwarf

    if they insisted he should have just botched it.

    • Truth goes 100 MPH

      About as smart as cursing out the guy cooking your meal. You just might get some “added” ingredient.

  • 2egypt

    Whatever happened to FREEDOM OF CHOICE? A lot of business have a sign “We reserved the right to refuse service to anyone we choose to”. Go to some Lesbian bakery…I’m sure there’s a lot of them around since America is turning into a Fruit Bowl…

  • Jeanne M

    Oh, for crying out loud, why can’t those Lesbians just go to another bakery, and leave this man alone? Grow up, you big crybabies!!!

  • David B.

    This is what happens when they opened this can of peas in the first place. There’s no room for gay marriages and second as long as I can remember(and that goes back 40 years)the business owner has every right to refuse service for any reason to anyone that would be disruptive and detramental to the business.This woman has no grounds for this other than to force their sleezy life style down somebodys throats.

  • buckofama2010

    Can we buy his stuff long distance…I don’t care if it arrives stale and full of worms. I just want to support him.

  • Gary Rose

    Most places used to have a sign hung in Room? We Reserve the Right to Refuse Service To Anybody What happened cant do that Anymore My My My? If so next Thing The Feds will be Telling us When We can go Potty Really. Think About Legal Taxpaying Voteing American>> Please Note Illegals are Immune to Americas Laws and Policies Thank Obummer For that>No Taxes?No Permits? >>>>

  • RG

    Their choice to be gay, his choice to refuse baking.

  • James Maxwell

    If I do not condone nor suport homosexuality or drug abuse why should I or any other business
    person be forced to support them? That is my right and my freedom as an American. They, by court order in some states, are allowed to live their lives together. For me that is not acceptable, do I
    have to make a cake for a child molsester just because they want one, or a serial rapist or murder?
    This is pure BS and them trying to force us to accept them and their lifestyle. That equates to telling
    me that I have to voted for someone who I totall disaprove of on every level.

  • Kevin Hawkins

    I just dont understand, why is our intolerance of those who do not tolerate us, intolerable?

  • Bob Marshall

    Any owner has the right to refuse service to a customer. In this case it seems to have been a moral issue. Good for this baker! I applaud his action.

  • Ranger5150

    Just another example of mentally ill gays forcing themselves on everyone else.

  • Tim Lucas

    I have no tolerance either.

  • Ronald Allen

    If his religious conscience told him not to do it, whats the problem? Obey God as ruler rathan man when it affects your conscience.

  • Nellie CA

    More government crap. This is just an excuse for the government to sue a business and they have no right to do this! If someone comes into a business the business owner has a right to refuse to do business with that person. Our rights are being taken away one day at a time. Look at the Obamacare and Christians businesses!! why should a business pay for abortions with health care. There is a lot more deaths from abortions than guns!

  • Ronald Christopher

    It keeps on going. We refuse to return to God don’t we? And because of that, our nation will suffer greatly.

  • Firsty

    It is better to insult man (or woman) than God.

  • 57girl

    If it’s a private business, it ain’t none of the Government’s business… they need to keep their nose out of Mr. Klien’s preferences as to who he serves. There is no tax money involved, so what right does Uncle Sam have to cry ‘discrimination’? What exactly is the Government investigating? If you ask me, the Government should be worrying about the corruption within their own structure, and leave the small time businessman alone to serve who he/she pleases.

  • wdcraftr

    This needs to go to Court.. We need to find out if Govt has now acquired the Power to tell us what we can and can’t do, or who a business owner can or can’t serve, or sell his product to… This is a direct conflict to the Constitution, and we better start Standing up to a Corrupt Govt, or we won’t have Any Rights left.. This Administration is Way out of Control. Where’s the Congress on this, who Also Swore to Uphold the Constitution..

  • Arthur Garin

    Let the lesbians to go to another baker! He’s not in public service and can do as he sees fit! This is still America, or is it? The fricken government in Oregon does not know what to do – get them fired!

  • Jesse Quarrels

    He has the right to refuse. Read the Constitution you ingrates!

  • Ariane

    Says sexual orientation not sexual preferences. That’s not breaking any law!

  • Wiseoldlady

    Your morals are correct. This sick world we are now living in wants everyone to believe that evil is good and good is racist. NO, God said I am the same yesterday, today and forever. Stand your ground and keep your excellent principles against this corruption in our evil government.

  • libsuk

    The people who decided to do this investigation should be taken from their home , tard and feathered then run out of the country.

    • Fireplace

      Maybe turd and feathered.

  • jb80538

    He should simply have said, we’re booked up and won’t have the time.

  • Quake052

    I do know what is happening to this country. This fraud in the White House has destroyed everything we have built for generations. We are being overtaken by scum and non-contributors, taking from the producers and laughing all the way to the bank to cash their checks they have done nothing to earn.

  • Most Rev. Gregori

    I hope and pray that the owner of that bakery continues to have the courage to stand firm for his convictions. Let gays and lesbians start their own bakeries and other businesses, then the public can choose if they want to do business with them.

  • Phil Bronner

    Apparently, the gubmint believes that IT decides what private individuals can and can’t do….Crimes are one thing…but the gubmint cannot and should not try to criminalize one’s religious convictions…it’s a contravention of the 1st Amendment…

  • John Hand w/gunpermit

    All he had to do was put up his traditional statues of a man and a woman. The man statue could have stood in for the Bull Dyke half of the couple.

  • Pclages

    Civil rights laws should apply SOLELY to the public sector. Private sector should be governed by the concept of ‘ Freedom of Association ‘, and that of private property.

  • terry

    This is now the Gay-K-K!!!!! Time to put gays back where they belong!

  • terry

    get rid of the Gay-K-K!!!!!!

  • dave

    Stick with your beliefs. I would do the same.

  • Susan

    I would think that the Oregon Justice Dept. would have more pressing issues to attend to — like getting the feds to explain Fast & Furious and Benghazi.

  • bobt

    Last I checked this was a Free country. If he doesn’t want to serve them why force the issue?
    Are there no other bakeries that will make them a cake?
    Is it SO important that they make a statement about this and start litigation over it?


    Go live your life as you want. Don’t force it down the throats of others. If he doesn’t want your business, go find another. He is not pushing a straight lifestyle in your face, why push a gay lifestyle in his?

  • smartgranny55

    Another attempt to deny freedom of religion

  • tcdesalvo

    Unfortunately, the baker will lose in court. Now that same sex marriage is legal, they have the same status as a black, mixed race, or conventional marriage. To refuse service to one “group” and not another is the definition of discrimiination. The time to prevent the possibility of facing such a confrontation is before your government passes such a law. Sitting back watching from the side lines rather than getting involved ends up in rude awakenings like this one. They will be coming for your guns next.

  • Dingbat36

    Any private business “reserves the right to refuse service”……………..NO reason needs to be given.

  • ketrout

    This is really state and local government over stepping their bounds! A business owner has every right to refuse customer service. Just like bars, restaurants, etc.

    I hope that the owner of the bakery stands his grounds.

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  • Harold

    In other words the state “gestopo” is acting like the German gestopo of the 1930’s.

  • TLady62

    Can’t say I blame Mr. Klein. Not at all.

  • rocketjl

    Why? So this is going to be the new America. Only one place makes wedding cakes. The cops and the government refuse to arrest illegal immigrants and only enforces the laws it chooses. The full weight of the tyrannical government is going to destroy the only baker in America that makes wedding cakes and then Hollywood will make a movie about it.

  • SingerMan77

    Next, they’ll be telling us that it’s okay to refuse service to Christian people just because the service provider is not religious themselves. Or, you’ll be telling us that we Christian people can refuse service to people of other religious customs because they don’t believe in that religion. The whole thing is ridiculous. To push this further, it’s ridiculous for this couple or the mother to make such a big stink about it. Just boycott the place. Who wants anything from anyone who doesn’t want to provide it for you?

  • Ballistic45

    WARNING: To all businesses, if you want the right to refuse service to anyone, DON’T locate your business in OREGON… Find a State where Freedom still rings for religion and business…

  • Bob Ridge

    If he does not want to make a cake for Queers then he should not have to .

  • Don

    The problem was they wanted it lickety split.

  • Dennis

    Talk about ignorance.He can REFUSE SERVICE TO ANYONE FOR ANY REASON.its his business.If you dont agree or like it then dont do business with him.Its that simple.This kind of crap shouldnt even be news or happening.This is tolerance? Where is the tolerance and understanding of this bakers wishes and thoughts? Talk about hypocrisy

  • geneww1938

    He should apologize, cut the price in half and make the cake out of the most odoriferous material that could be concealed under icing. Perhaps a zip lock bag with aromatic liquids could assist.

  • ChrisnAtlanta

    His cakes probably suck anyway. Is there a job more gayer than a cake baker?? LOL

  • David Clements

    This is ridiculous. It’s a privately owned business so they don’t have to serve anyone they don’t want to and don’t have to give anyone a reason for it either! In the business world it’s what is called, “Reserving the Right”. If someone doesn’t like it, then they can go somewhere else.

  • diane

    Kudos to Aaron! I hope he doesn’t lose his business because of his moral and religious convictions.

  • Frank J. Austin


  • Rich

    Since when did a wedding cake become an accommodation? If a cake is an accommodation, then everything is an accommodation.

  • Barry

    I guess they wated the cake likety split.

  • Elsie M. Paroz

    I think this owner has a right to his opinion and his religion, the same as the girl that was trying to buy a cake. There are many bakeries so why not choose another one. Someone said word travels fast about how you treat customers. Maybe he lost that one but may also gain many who have the same ideas as his. I feel that the government is starting to take control of our lives and and seems like the minortity is the winner. I do not understand why the majority will not stand up for our rights and why they are having their rights taken away. This has happened with a lot of things, one person gets the snowball rolling and the next thing we have is an avalanche. It needs to stop so I hope this man’s business is not ruined because of his stand in this situation.

  • watchdogman

    Oregon…what can you say about Oregon…It is only a connection between California and Washington State…All liberal cesspools. All the same bunch just different types of looney’s. Same agenda…suck off the blood of hard working conservatives.

  • watchdogman

    Did anyone get the name of the mother/daughter goon squad that set this guy up…maybe a visit from someone to find out more.

  • joespenthouse

    Hold your ground and tell those fagots and lesbians it,s your right to serve who ever you want,one thing for sure their all going to hell for breaking God,s law.

  • Henry Bowman

    Is anyone else getting as sick and tired of all the endless pandering to every f—ing “special” group that decides that their feelings are hurt? Is this guy the only baker in town?

    I think the baker here should take the order for the cake, take that order to one of his competitors and have them make the cake, bring it back to his store and deliver it.

    If his conscience won’t let him do this, then he should stand his ground and tell the aery couple to take their business elsewhere.

  • The Brigadier

    He is not a public company. He apparently is a private owner selling to private citizens. The state law is unconstitutional as it is written. Most liberals don’t understand the idea of private commerce. He takes no government dollars for buying his supplies or other government or state aid for making his product. Therefore he is exempt from state law. This is very difficult to assimilate for progressive socialist states like Oregon.

  • RedMeatState

    In order to break “the law”, there has to be a law, WRITTEN IN THE CODE. Otherwise, they’re just blowin’ smoke and any action is illegal.

  • ccalreds

    Mr. Klein needs our prayers. I for one am proud of him for standing up
    for what he believes in.

  • Thomas Wise

    The only issue here is whether the state has any right to make anyone do anything. The state is meant to protect things from being taken away, not to give things. If baker doesn’t want to make a cake, so what? Go to another baker. Leave the baker alone.

  • freebirds

    For whatever reason my not so smart phone wont let me see all the postings. But I’m self employed and feel the govt has no place telling me who i can or can’t serve. Govt control at its best. I would have no problem if a gay or lesbo couple refused go give me service because they didn’t agree with my hedro lifestyle. There company. There choice. I feel ghey should be tolerant toward his beliefs. Oh wait.. tolerance only goes one way. I forgot.

  • David Jines

    What a shame that we as a country have to put up with this kind of garbage. I hope the baker can take the Lesbians and the state to court and sue their butts off for breaking trust with the 1st amendment. I am sure you will find no help coming from this President or Congress to uphold the bakers 1st Amendment Rights just because they swore to uphold the constitution “so help me Allah.

  • Rob Roberts

    The problem is we don’t have enough Government

  • vicid

    No shirts. No shoes. No service. Is that discrimination against the poor? He should sell his stuff to whomever he wants. The free market will either reward or punish his decisions, but the decision is his. Free choice??

  • Timothy Yorgan

    This is the kind of persecution that NAZI Germany pulled on the Jews. The subject matter is not the point, the point is, if the lesbians disagree with your faith, as the NAZI’s did the Jews, they’ll find an angle to try and destroy your business. I’m in hopes that this free advertising triples his business. Now,………..if he were selling condoms, they’d probably leave him alone.

  • Free in Texas

    We could use another bakery here in Texas, just like the photographer in New Mexico who refused to photo shoot a gay wedding, I believe he is moving to Texas as well. Come on down, just Don;t Mess With Texas

  • Phyllis

    What is going on w/ this Country? I say this Man has the right to refuse service to any one for reason he has given.And why is it that when ever something doesn’t go the way a Gay ,person wants the Govt,,State & Federal have to get their nose in the situation? Just infuriates me.I say his 1st Amendment Rights far out weigh the whinny Gay’s ,that always want to cry foul when they can’t bully someone or something to go their way.This is the most asinine thing I have heard.I stand for Mr Klein
    & his beliefs.

  • downs1

    Another right trampled by a liberal, Godless and dying nation! The homosexuals can insult, demean, and boycott in the name of “equal rights” but a merchant has no right to deny his services to someone with whom he disagrees on grounds of faith! Meanwhile these people can slowly destroy any person or any organization who disagrees with them (e.g. the Boy Scouts of America). Wonder what they’ll do when they stand in eternal judgment before the Lord whom they blaspheme, deny and openly ridicule by their comments and actions?

  • Wayne Graff

    Piss off, I guess the “we refuse to do business as is our right” doesn’t apply?

  • keepersleeper

    Hold your ground, Mr. Klein…HOLD YOUR GROUND!

  • hw

    This is a private business run by an individual and the owner should be able to do business as he chooses , maybe the owner has strong convictions or religious beliefs that need to be respected. . The girls also have rights , they can get their cake at many other bakeries, some that may be gay friendly.

  • mes

    Thanks for putting the print in white…

  • floridarooster

    Good for him! The state should not be able to force him to do something that violates his religious beliefs.

  • eddyjames

    I might be forced to bake a cake but I don’t think anyone that forced me to do it would want to eat it. And I’m not sure I could get the spelling right under duress.

  • Johnnygard

    If this type of government intrusion into businesses gets much worse, stores will start to be “private membership clubs” for members only. Then at check out, if you don’t want to do business with someone, you don’t give them a membership, and if they already have one, you have it written up so you can revoke their (free) membership at any time.

  • Lou

    It seems that homosexuals want to force themselves upon others. They want to force everyone to accept their way of life without disagreement.

    You can NOT force people to agree with you.

  • Paul Brown

    I remember seeing signs in business years back that read, ” We reserve the right to refuse service to any customer”, what happened to that freedom? Did that go by the way of Obama as well? I reserve the right to close my doors anytime I so choose. The cops used to tell people in bars that the owner can refuse service to anyone they want, because it their business, what happened to that? What kind of country are we now living in? Obama’s country! Its no more the USA, that has now been replace by the gays and lesbians and Odummer the muslim islamic dictator wanna be. This is not the America I grew up in and went to war and fought for years back. God have mercy on us today and everyday.

  • Kioga

    No Shirt, No shoes, No Cake (Service). Thanks, for being Strong in your beliefs. Mamma can take her two daughters somewhere else and stop being a trouble maker. She’s the goofball !

  • Ron

    As a citizen of the USA we have the right to refuse or accept. We have the rights to our views, or religion, our goals, our moral ethics. I for one will not be forced to do something that goes against my morals. I’m tired of democrats and liberals telling me what I can and can not do..

  • GQ4U

    Aaron Klein’s business should be allowed to refuse service to anyone for any reason.

    People start businesses to provide for their family not cater to persons with an unwarranted agenda. Besides, Homosexuals getting married in Oregon is against the law and supporting their illegal activity may be aiding and abetting a criminal in the commission of a crime. Klein should sue the lesbians for harassment. If the state pursues a case against ‘Sweet Cakes by Melissa’ they should sue infringing on their right to refuse service, freedom of religion, attempting to force them to violate state law and willful misconduct by the attorney generals office.

  • Rustytruck

    Aaron, I hope you know all you need to do is have that sign posted in your business saying “We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone.” and then you are covered by law. You don’t need a reason just the sign and that’s all. As a matter of fact, you should post your business address and I will come out and buy from you, also I’ll tell all my friends to do the same, kinda like the Chic-fila deal. We’ll support you just as much as we did Mr. Kathy. I have to say , you were a lot more respectable to them than I would’ve been. Special rights? I don’t think so, they can crawl back into the closet as far as I’m concerned. The first time I hear one of them try to tell my precious Granddaughters that that kind of garbage is ok, they’ll be picking their homo butt up off the floor, It’s not Ok, never will be.

    • Faithful Grammy

      I completely agree Lou. In fact, when I told my two daughters how the public school’s in their area were planning on indocrinating them with gay propaganda, they both had all of their children removed from the public school district and are now homeschooling them where they can teach them the right way, God’s way.

  • TheBigGeezer

    Mr Klein… do you do mail order? Everyone who stands with him contact him and show our support by placing an order… I’ll take 2 dozen cookies please! His phone number is (503) 674-5400… CALL AND PLACE AN ORDER! American patriots need to start standing up for what is right… not just talking and bitching about it!! You know the homosexuals will raise hell over this… lets do our part to stand and support what is RIGHT!!

  • KittyKittyKit

    The U.S. Constitution is the SUPREME WRITTEN LAW OF THE LAND. It simple, clearly written, and EASY to understand if you are a REAL AMERICAN CITIZEN and not just a “citizen” living in Am
    The ONLY WAY the U.S. Constitution can be “changed” is through the Amendment process to ADD or REPEAL amendments. Until that process is LEGALLY DONE, the Constitution remains THE SUPREME LAW of the land, LIMITING THE RIGHTS OF THE GOVERNMENT, not the people, and GUARNTEEING THE PEOPLE, not the government, with CERTAIN UNALIENABLE RIGHTS that neither Federal or State governments can INFRINGE UPON unless they get it done through the amendment process.
    FREEDOM OF RELIGION is and UNALIENABLE RIGHT, especially CHRISTIANITY, upon which our nations Founding Fathers, FOUNDED THE NATIONS LAWS.
    For the PIGS (People In Government Service) to even have to take a SECOND GLANCE at this case means they are WILLFULLY IGNORANT of the OATH they took BEFORE entering into public service. That OATH has ONLY ONE THING for them to SWEAR TO, and that is to PROTECT and DEFEND the CONSTITUTION of the United States of America against ALL ENEMIES both foreign and DOMESTIC.
    The PIGS in America, have become soooooooooo STUPID, that MOST OF THEM, when asked, DO NOT KNOW THE CONSTITUTION is the SUPREME LAW of the land.
    The MARXIST / MUSLIM / COMMUNIST / PROGRESSIVE PIGS are NOT interested in setting the record straight. They are ACTIVELY ENGAGED in the OVERTHROW of the U.S. Constitution by using the STUPID POLICE to FORCIBLY deny REAL AMERICAN CITIZENS “their” rights under the 1st and 2nd Amendments to that document.
    The CAKE BAKER is FULLY WITHIN “HIS” RIGHTS. This is TOTALLY outside the realm and authority of ANY Federal, State, or Local PIG (Person In Government). They have NO RIGHT or JURISDICTION in the matter. It is TOTALLY INSULATED and PROTECTED by the 1st Amendment to the Constitiution WHICH HAS NOT BEEN REPEALED and therefore is STILL the SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND.

  • Progressive Republican

    To all you nit-wits, half-wits, Republicretins and the rest of you ignorant bigots, some history:

    Prior to the Fourteenth Century, many Christians did NOT share the view that marriage was a reward for being heterosexual, nor that a same-sex union was objectionable.

    An icon from St. Catherine’s monastery on Mount Sinai illustrates this point. It shows two robed Christian saints getting married. Their pronubus (official witness, or “best man”) is none other than Jesus Christ.

    It is a standard Roman portrayal of a wedding. The difference: the two saints are both male, Fourth Century Christian martyrs, Saint Serge and Saint Bacchus, close friends in the Roman army who were purportedly singled out for their secret adherence to Christianity before being tortured and killed.

    Their unity, considered romantic by some historians and depicted through the image of marriage at St. Catherine’s monastery, was commemorated in many subsequent liturgies. The late Yale historian John Boswell found evidence for other Christian same-sex marriage ceremonies continuing into the Eighteenth Century.

    It is broadly and falsely assumed that the world’s religions uniformly condemn same-sex unions. This error is even repeated in the recent favorable decision on same-sex marriage by Chief Judge of Federal District Court in San Francisco, Vaughan R. Walker. Oops.

    It is true that all major religions exhibit some heterosexism, a bias in favor of heterosexuality over homosexuality. However, religions have also shown openness to same-sex unions, a reality that shrill conservative commentary, which dominates the public square on matters religious and sexual, has blocked from public view, even from the view of Judge Walker.

    Conservative “Christians” cite the anti-gay texts from the Bible, but even they do not take those passages seriously since the texts call for capital punishment for active gays. Not even the Tea-baggers favor that.

    Leviticus says that anyone who has sex with someone of the same sex “shall be put to death: their blood shall be on their own heads.” (Leviticus 20:13) Paul writing to the Romans says those who do such things “deserve to die.” (1:26-32).

    These isolated texts – like other biblical passages permitting slavery, animal sacrifice and polygamy – are not applicable to today, though they continue to do mischief in modern churches and in the chambers of lawmakers.

    These passages also run counter to Jesus’s teachings in the gospels where he defends the persecuted, including those accused of sexual offenses, famously demanding of Israelites who were preparing to stone to death an alleged adulteress that “he that is without sin among you, let him cast the first stone at her.”

    That tolerance, often in the face of cruel intolerance, guided many early believers in Christianity. And, like early Christianity, other world religions have demonstrated tolerance toward same-sex unions.

    Many Buddhist authorities insist that privileging one sexual orientation over another is not the path of wisdom and insist that the successful management of sexual desire is the moral issue, not the orientation of that desire or the gender of your lover.

    Jewish scholars show that compulsory hetero-normality is NOT supported by basic Jewish values.

    Pioneering scholars in Islam argue that in spite of the negative Qur’anic texts on homosexuality, a solid Muslim case, based on Islamic justice, can be made for same-sex unions. Observant Muslim lesbians, known as the Samadiyyah, are living out this expression of Muslim life and tolerance.

    Some Native American religions portrayed “two-spirited,” persons, i.e. sexual minorities, in a very positive light.

    Hindu scholars have shown that respect for diversity is at the heart of Hindu cultures. Since early times, the Hindus saw that persons were not divided neatly into male and female and spoke of a “third sex” which opened space for and normalized gender and sexual variety and same-sex unions.

    The religious view supporting same-sex unions coexists with equal standing alongside the conservative, restrictive view.

    LAWMAKERS TAKE NOTE: because religions give this warranty and allow for this freedom of same-sex unions, LAWS THAT WOULD LEGALIZE ONLY THE CONSERVATIVE RELIGIOUS VIEW ARE IN VIOLATION OF RELIGIOUS FREEDOM.

    Religions are pluralistic on same-sex unions. It is NOT the function of law to curtail freedoms granted and authorized by mainstream religions.

    Conservative “Christians” who insist that “traditional marriage” has always been “between a man and a woman” are wrong and historically uninformed. Thus, they are poor guides for lawmakers and judges.
    There is strong support in world religions for the view that homosexuality is not the problem; heterosexism is.

    The principles of justice and equality that pulse through those flawed but powerful classics that we call the “world religions,” are moving toward seeing heterosexism, with its resistance to same-sex loving unions, as a prejudice in a class with sexism, racism, anti-Arabism and anti-Semitism.

    Humanity needs its exuberant diversity but humans shrink from it.

    As theologian William Sloane Coffin said: “Diversity may be the hardest thing for a society to live with — and perhaps the most dangerous thing to live without

  • Winston Hibler

    Totalitarianism is alive and well in Oregon. Wake up, folks. You may be next.

  • zsdeffghjtg

    He needs to fight this til his last breath cause if he doesn’t and we don’t when we are charged with something as ludicrous as this, we ,as Christians have had it. Just remember Jesus’ words in Rev 3:15. we so need to be the salt and light to the world that is wasting away.

  • Charlene Grinder

    The dykes should just put frosting on their pussies and lick it.

  • Old_Conservative

    So Christians take it in the ear one more time! When will we all wise up, rise up and smack down this Socialist Federal anit-Constitution government and any state government that violate OUR rights!!

  • MassAlex

    So how does the American Public support this poor guy? He is obviously being targeted by the Communists in our country. Is there a fund being set up to assist him? It’s time for real Americans – the Brave referred to in our National Anthem – to stand up and just stop this.

  • ylpo8

    Homosexuals want their beliefs and practices shoved down everyone’s throat and business. They want to be in charge. Good for this baker!

  • Dr Dave

    I recall seeing “No – Shirt, No – Shoes, No – Service” growing up… However, this is slippery because the Bill of Rights, namely, the First Amendment protects political speech. I do not see how a private business refusing to do business with a private person rises to the level of political speech. Therefore, using the First Amendment is only applicable if the State suppresses political speech extended to the States through the Fourteenth Amendment equal protections clause.

    This is going to be interesting, that is, if we stick to the Law and not political correctness!

  • John Adams

    EVERY business owner has the right, and responsibility, to accept or refuse to do business with anyone. He shouldn’t have to explain nor receive any flack for his decision.

  • Samurai_Sam

    The real test would be to have someone go into a bakery that is run by a known liberal and ask for a Cake to be decorated with an Image of BO with a noose around his neck. Guarantee that guy wouldn’t be questioned for refusing

  • Jane18

    Hey Aaron, I am sorry I do not live close enough to your business! If I did, I would most certainly come by and be a customer of yours. You were nice, but strong enough, to make your point. Trust me, you made GOD smile in that moment you made a stand!

  • camdenme2

    Good for him !!!!

  • Puckmeister1

    It is the right of any business owner to refuse services as long as it is not Medical. Buy the cake at another Bakery and tell all your Gay and Lesbian friends to use another bakery. It should be good for someone who wants the business. But You CAN NOT Force a business owner to cater to anyone. It is his or her right to cater to whom they wish!



  • JSP

    It’s his company and he should be able to refuse to do business with whomever. The girl should have left and found her a bakery that would accommodate her dream cake. She’s needs to grow up and accept not everyone accepts her life style just as she may not accept someone for being bossy, rude, etc. Life doesn’t always go the way we want so you just have to accept it and always keep our faith and belief in God.

  • Joy JustJoy

    Read about a Shop Rite in NJ who refused to put a couples sons name on a birthday cake. His name was Adolph Hitler. When Shop Rite refused, they went to a Wal Mart in PA. who agreed to put his name on the cake. Many stood behind Shop Rites decision, and no charges were ever made against them. Not all businesses provide the same services! Move on! Find the one that suits your needs.

  • JayelK

    Mr. Klein – Well done! Stick by your beliefs. We are entering the time of tribulation. Hang tight to your faith as you know it will continue to be tested.

  • dumpas stump

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    he’s exercising his religion which states homosexuality is an abomination.

    now get over it girly, move on and all the radical homo jargon.

    The Bible contains 9 specific references to homosexuality: 4 in the Old Testament (Genesis 19:1-25; Judges 19:22-30; Leviticus 18:22; andLeviticus 20:13) and 5 in the New Testament (Romans 1:24-28; 1 Corinthians 6:9-10; 1 Timothy 1:8-11; 2 Peter 2:6-10; and Jude 7). The passage in Romans, in particular is so clear that it seems to have been written by St. Paul in anticipation that people might challenge the idea that homosexual behavior is wrong (in case you don’t get it, let me make it perfectly clear!). In addition, there are numerous other passages that touch on this topic indirectly through comments on the biblical view of marriage and family, promiscuity, and sexual purity. Included in these references areGenesis 2:18-25; Proverbs 18:22; Mark 7:21, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-5;Romans 6:13, 13:13; 1 Corinthians 6:13, 18-19; Galatians 5:19-21;Colossians 3:5; Revelation 21:8, 22:15.

  • Dowhatsright

    I am dam tired of having to give up my beliefs for a bunch
    of perverts. My rights are just as important as they think theirs are. I think the public has better get rid of
    these dam office holders that force you to give up your rights for some dam
    hair brained idea.

    From the way that dam law was stated in the video, if
    someone came in and said I want a wedding cake for the wedding with a 10 year
    old, he would have to make them a cake. What about someone that believes in bestiality?
    I can see it now a man and sheep on top of the cake. Or may be someone with necrophilia
    would want a cake with a man and a little coffin with a body in it.

  • sk4

    Really! How absurd. The charlatan in office and Hillary get nothing for allowing four men to be murdered (and blaming it on Bush) but this guys is under investigation for this. I think it’s time for “we the people” to take our country back ourselves since it’s obvious nobody else will.

  • bealman2

    There is always a ‘first step’ that seems to set the precedence is many things. Everyone should be aware of that and respond with that in mind. By the way, I want a death cake..; I want a wedding cake for my two dogs, and an image atop showing them ‘hooked up’ after sex…; I want a chocolate cake for Obama, with Obama in ‘white’ face. Get the idea? Tell the ‘state’ and the ‘Feds’ to suck it up and leave us the f… alone.

  • llardog

    Just as the gay couple has the right to pick the baker for their cake, the baker has the right to make or not make cakes for whom ever he wishes for any reason. Why is it that if I walked in the auto repair shop and the man there refused to work on my foreign car. l don’t have the right to sue them because they don’t want to work on something they are in competition with. Why is it any different if the baker doesn’t want to work for someone that he thinks isn’t in line with his best interest? You aren’t going to help the gay cause by MAKING everyone do what YOU want. Go to someone else that will make the gay cake for you and stop trying to make people think that your lifestyle has to be approved by everyone. It isn’t!!!!!!!

  • TAM44

    God bless that man and his morals are 100% in tack and he will most likely pay for his beliefs thanks to a corrupt society of obamanites.

  • Libtard

    He broke the law

  • Herman L. McCloud

    There is a very unique and intresting statement which gets you off the hook once and for all
    for the price of a dollar or less go to the Home Depot or majorities of other department stores
    and purchase a 6 x 6 sign which states “you have Right To NOT Serve Anyone” as long as
    this is stated in a public place in pain site, makes it illigal for someone to demand services or
    requests of you if it is against your principals or makes you nervous.


    Every Christian in town should order a cake from Mr. Klein and show the city, he has the support of the people. We need to show the gays we will not back down or bow down to them.

  • llardog

    The state law is trumpt by federal law. It’s called the Constitution. You gays aren’t going to get your own Amendment. Don’t ever dream it.

  • Gloria

    If it were a Muslim bakery it would be a different story. They wouldn’t have to bake the cake. Makes me disgusted.

  • 300m

    I stand behind this baker 200%. I would help him financially if it got to that point where he might get sued.

  • Dick Burgoon

    I have a simple solution. Tell the customer that they have had problems with accidentally using salt instead of sugar at times, so their cake may or may not be accidentally tainted. Get the money up front – I’ll bet they back off very quickly!

  • craig

    I would give them a cake they would not soon forget…oh yea ..a great cake !

  • Gustave Verdult

    God loves you, what the rest of the world does is not important.

  • moparfan54

    He unlocks the door in the morning, he locks it at night, it is his business, no one else.

  • Rat Pak Dad

    No shoes, NO Shirt, No Service, remember?……….smoking is personal choice but now people smoke outside 25 feet from any entrance, not of their choice. I believe gender orientation is also a choice, same sex marriage is a choice,…. refusing baking a cake for a same-sex wedding is a personal and business choice,….don’t mess with my choice…..and I won’t mess with yours. Agree to disagree and get on with your life!

  • Elijah

    I support the Baker, there is no way he or any other business should have to compromise their morals for these people, this is going beyond ridiculous, they chose their perverted life style now they can deal with the true feelings of the majority of Americans.

  • Dairell Davis

    He did the right think. It is his business and the govt has no right to get involved. Makes me believe even more that Lester Maddox was correct when he had to use a baseball bat to protect his business.

  • Tolerance is not acceptance.

    I purchased a cake from Melissa for my daughters graduation . . . she does great work. As a business, she should be allowed to refuse service to anyone.

  • ol’cowgirl

    Time to let business owner’s own their business! Where have American’s rights to choose gone? To Raymond, I join you to stand for your personal values. The homosexual couple has the right to have a homosexual baker bake their cake. Please know we stand with your right to run your business as you choose according to your values!


    So, these two women are asking the business owner to go against his beliefs. Hmmm….I bet there is at least one bakery operated by a gay or lesbian person that they could patronize. He was well within his rights to refuse their request.

  • 2013NOW_notBCorAD

    “We have no tolerance for comments containing violence, racism, vulgarity, profanity, all caps, or discourteous behavior. Thank you for partnering with us to maintain a courteous and useful public environment where we can engage in reasonable discourse. ”

    …and yet you allow these mindless people to bash homosexuals. who gave any of you people on here the right to judge when your religion says “only God” can judge?

  • Gringo Infidel

    Abuse of power will not be tolerated. Deviants and their enablers seem to believe that their choice of lifestyle is a civil right. They are dead wrong.

  • David Veselenak

    Let’s set the record straight: This Muslim-Marxist, NWO puppet, new Hitler and his regime of lesbos and homos are out to impose their luciferian policies against Christians and this nation! They are worshipers of the devil pure and simple. Good against Evil, that is where we are in this point of time! Let them go to hell as they surely will!

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